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What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 18th 2009, 10:05 PM

What really happened on 9/11

Some say it was caused by terrorist. others believe the Attacks were caused by Americas own government?


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Re: What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 18th 2009, 10:22 PM

I was studying this a few months back. I believe it was the government for these reasons.

1. Larry Silverstien who owned the WTC complexs had to remove aspestous the cancer causing molecule it would have cost over $1,000,000

2. earlier that year a right wing neo conseritive group in America made plans for "Plans for the New American Century" PNAC for short. They said to complete this it would be a long process unless "A cataztrophic, catalying event, Like a new pearl harbor"

3. When an investigation is held people will ask who benefits. So Bin Laden, Saddam Hussien, Al Quieda. They lost everything while Bush etc gained everything.

I could be here for hours, but at the end of the day innocent lives were lost for what I believe Black gunk that comes out the ground and will dissapper rather soon.

Look at 9/11 coincedence on youtube from Nuffrespect's Channel


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Re: What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 18th 2009, 10:29 PM

Also when firefighters at the Wtc found the planes Blac boxes the Fbi told them to keep there mouths shut..? What are they trying to hide.


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Re: What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 19th 2009, 12:07 AM

Here's what happened with this whole conspiracy.

A bunch of pissed off terrorists flew planes into buildings. Then one day, someone woke up and discovered that money could be made starting a conspiracy involving 9/11. And walla, the "truth" movement.

The conspiracy broken down and explained.
http://www.debunking911.com/

What bugs me is, there have been dozens of scientists and engineers that have come forward and disproved countless accusations made by the the "conspiratists". The conspiracy supporters usually respond by saying "lolno you are paid by the gov't to lie." Because we all know, cold hard science cannot possibly compete with college kids who like to make documentaries with Windows Movie Maker in their free time.

Now can we please, as a country, finally realize that the "Truth movement" was simply a disgusting publicity stunt and move on?


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Re: What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 19th 2009, 12:39 AM

Well, I don't think that September 11th was planned, but I do agree with Ben, in a way.


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Re: What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 19th 2009, 12:44 AM

What really happened was the Muslim extremist group Al-Qaeda, led by OSAMA BIN LADEN, hijacked 4 American airplanes and crashed two of them into the World Trade Center, killing many innocent people. God Bless their souls.


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Re: What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 19th 2009, 02:52 AM

There was no conspiracy, but I think there was a third party involved. The planes crashed into the building, but I don't think the planes were what caused the building to collapse. The REAL reason why the building collapsed was that someone in that floor lit a match while the room was completely filled with gas that came from Howard Stern's asshole.
   
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Re: What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 19th 2009, 03:21 AM

I had a quick browse through some of these conspiracy theories. They analyze video snapshots, video frames that went out live, and photos taken by the public as the second plane hit.

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n the 2 pictures blelow, the plane looks at different angles, in the first picture, it appears as if the plane is coming UP to hit the building....

Notice how much higher the plane appears in this picture, is this just due to the angle of the camera, and height in which the picture was taken?
Would you believe someone who makes a website about it and can't spell below? Surely it's a sign that this source isn't credible?
Anyway. The plane looks to be flying at different angles? The photos ARE from different heights, and were taken at different angles, so of course the plane is going to look like it's at a different angle. A 10 year old could tell you that!?
Idiotic complication of something simple.

As for explosives in the tower, yes, there were, in the form of 23,000 gallons of jet fuel in one plane and 24,000 in the other. Jet engines generally explode during a crash, you can look through old news articles and you will know that.
The resulting fire after the explosion released enough heat to warp the steel, causing the collapse.


I agree with Ben, when it comes down to it, the science behind it is fact, and that can't be argued with. It's a pointless exercise. Rather like global warming and anthropogenic greenhouse effect arguments, the basic science of the atmosphere explains it all.


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Re: What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 19th 2009, 04:36 AM

Really, and let's be honest here, there's no way the Bush administration was competent enough to pull off a ruse like that. All they did was capitalize on it as best their black little hearts could.


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Re: What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 19th 2009, 09:25 AM

I think that the evidence points to something far more complex than some planes crashing into the towers, but I'm willing to use Occams Razer (spellcheck?) and go with the simpler explanation (and why do people assume that the government was involved anyway?). Either way people have to realise that this operation was far too complicated to be planned purely by middle eastern terrorists, and that some americans were definitively involved. I blame the defence contractors.
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Re: What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 19th 2009, 10:39 AM

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Really, and let's be honest here, there's no way the Bush administration was competent enough to pull off a ruse like that. All they did was capitalize on it as best their black little hearts could.
Lol, <3 to that.

And I never thought about it too much but evidence to an extent seems to suggest a conspiracy..


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Re: What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 19th 2009, 11:19 PM

I honestly don't know... But I do know whatever happened one side of the story is using a LOT of propaganda(?)... Lots of persuasion. Both stories fit the evidence and outcome, but like a few people have said; its all too easy to get caught up in who caused it, and to forget the people involved.

Videos of people jumping, falling, screaming, recorded phone conversations; those sort of things can be found on youtube and various other sites... I just think who ever did it covered their tracks, and covered them well, I'm not saying stop digging, but I think the people involved deserve a lot more of a mention!



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Re: What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 20th 2009, 02:44 AM

http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...iracy_theories

And, in light of this, here's a hilarious video from the onion...




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Re: What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 20th 2009, 05:05 AM

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http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...iracy_theories

And, in light of this, here's a hilarious video from the onion...
"We flew an enormous airplane into a building...I think it is obvious what caused the building to crumble." - I started dying man I love the onion..

Anyway, Ben and Mexico put it well. We were attacked that day by terrorists, who killed about 3000 people (including a few parents I knew of). Anyone who thinks the government had anything to do with it really disgusts me. If I could, I would personally kick these conspiracy theorist's teeth in.

Now, I think we can say the Bush Admin used this event to their advantage. But then again, we had a bunch of pissed off Americans and we wanted to do something about this.
   
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Re: What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 20th 2009, 07:55 PM

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Re: What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 21st 2009, 04:53 PM

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Here's what happened with this whole conspiracy.

A bunch of pissed off terrorists flew planes into buildings. Then one day, someone woke up and discovered that money could be made starting a conspiracy involving 9/11. And walla, the "truth" movement.

The conspiracy broken down and explained.
http://www.debunking911.com/

What bugs me is, there have been dozens of scientists and engineers that have come forward and disproved countless accusations made by the the "conspiratists". The conspiracy supporters usually respond by saying "lolno you are paid by the gov't to lie." Because we all know, cold hard science cannot possibly compete with college kids who like to make documentaries with Windows Movie Maker in their free time.

Now can we please, as a country, finally realize that the "Truth movement" was simply a disgusting publicity stunt and move on?
We don't agree very often, but you put that just about as well as anyone could and I completely agree.
   
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Re: What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 21st 2009, 08:17 PM

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What really happened was the Muslim extremist group Al-Qaeda, led by OSAMA BIN LADEN, hijacked 4 American airplanes and crashed two of them into the World Trade Center, killing many innocent people. God Bless their souls.
Truth in that. Conspiracy theories, for lack of better words, are the most ill-conceived spews of conciousness on earth. I find them very disrespectful, considering my neighbours were in NY at the time, at the very centre.

"Bush did it!" Gee, that really sounds intelligent. Note there hasn't been a terrorist attack in America since. The only thing Bush did was protect America's boarders so tightly that you can all sit on your bums at the computers and not have to worry about a bomb beign dropped at your front door.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYZqQWfGIJg

Check out that vid. Scary stuff, not things to be poking fun at, in all honesty. 9/11 conspiracy theorists are nearly as bad as Holocaust deniers.


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Re: What do you really think happened on September,11,2001 - December 21st 2009, 08:24 PM

I do have to comment on how ridiculous the "9/11 was so terrible, how could you deny it was Al Qaeda?" argument is....
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