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Gene Linked to Schizophrenia May Reduce Cancer Risk - January 21st 2010, 04:56 PM

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0119121442.htm

I'm just wondering what people think of this and whether it'll help discover a cure for cancer.

I think it could put us on the right track as we could use the gene to develop some form of medicine. I also think it shows that everything has a bright side too.
   
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Re: Gene Linked to Schizophrenia May Reduce Cancer Risk - January 21st 2010, 06:55 PM

Very interesting. The one thing I thought of first when I read it was a very well-done study by O'Reilly in around 2006 involving computer models for schizophrenia. It's also pretty interesting that it prevents other types of cancers. I'll read the research article on it/
   
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Re: Gene Linked to Schizophrenia May Reduce Cancer Risk - January 23rd 2010, 05:13 PM

I didn't read the entire article, so correct me if I'm wrong about any of this.

I hardly think that we should be messing around with people's brains and genes so we can possibly reduce their risk of some kinds of cancer. As much as I think it's interesting and cool, some people with schizophrenia and autism, depending on their level and degree of it, would possibly take cancer over whichever mental problem they have. Neither schizophrenia nor autism are curable, but only treatable, while some cancers, if spotted early enough, are able to be cured. Messing around with genes that are linked with mental problems like this would be highly dangerous for the individual and I hardly think we should be trying this out anytime soon as the gene doesn't cure cancer, but just possibly prevents some kinds.


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Re: Gene Linked to Schizophrenia May Reduce Cancer Risk - January 23rd 2010, 07:59 PM

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I didn't read the entire article, so correct me if I'm wrong about any of this.

I hardly think that we should be messing around with people's brains and genes so we can possibly reduce their risk of some kinds of cancer. As much as I think it's interesting and cool, some people with schizophrenia and autism, depending on their level and degree of it, would possibly take cancer over whichever mental problem they have. Neither schizophrenia nor autism are curable, but only treatable, while some cancers, if spotted early enough, are able to be cured. Messing around with genes that are linked with mental problems like this would be highly dangerous for the individual and I hardly think we should be trying this out anytime soon as the gene doesn't cure cancer, but just possibly prevents some kinds.
I'm sort of at a loss here really with what you're saying. You're against experimenting to find possible preventions but you support experimenting for sure-fire cures? When it comes to science in these specific areas, and others, that is how it works, you need to find what may be a possible prevention and then work on that more to get better and better treatments. Either science ends up figuring out the mechanisms for the causes or the mechanisms for the treatments. Regardless of which one occurs (both do to some degree), you need experimentation. Generally though, when the possible treatment is established, it is then studied how and why that treatment works, and through that, it makes it more possible to determine the reasons for the disorder to occur and to treat it. For example, for schizophrenia, how do you think it was determined that dopamine is the main neurotransmitter involved in the disorder and a certain type of receptor, D1 and D2, are heavily involved in the treatment and cause? Through experiments that initially had not a single thing to do with schizophrenia (experiments on the effects of various psychosis-inducing drugs). Once someone made the connection that the symptoms of schizophrenia and these drugs are similar, they began testing if there was indeed a connection and then began experimenting on ways to improve management of schizophrenic symptoms. Through that, how do you think the current knowledge of the neurochemical, neuroanatomical and neurophysiological aspects have been obtained?

The philosophy you hold isn't the way the world of modern science works and hasn't for hundreds of years. It's an ideal one, this isn't an ideal world. We don't just call it quits because it doesn't look good from the start. Many pharmacological treatments were discovered through essentially experimenting on something else. Anti-psychotic drugs weren't discovered because people were trying to figure out drugs to reduce those symptoms, rather they were testing for drugs to reduce "surgical shock". Back then, the ethics were different and they simply gave these trial drugs to the patients in the psychiatric ward, and to everyone's surprise, the psychotic patients became calmer, relaxed and less aggressive. According to your philosophy, if the drugs to combat surgical shock weren't effective, they should be tossed out and not examined to see if they may be of use elsewhere. Science is rich in history with these gems, I suggest you look through some science of history and see how common these are, then re-evaluate your philosophy.

Regarding people whose progression has done so much neurological damage to that they may simply want to retain their disorder, that may very well be the case but there is also the large population who would want to get rid of the disorder. Sadly, as you pointed out, there are only methods to control the symptoms, not the cause. Hence, these experiments.
   
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Re: Gene Linked to Schizophrenia May Reduce Cancer Risk - January 24th 2010, 12:46 AM

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I hardly think that we should be messing around with people's brains and genes so we can possibly reduce their risk of some kinds of cancer. As much as I think it's interesting and cool, some people with schizophrenia and autism, depending on their level and degree of it, would possibly take cancer over whichever mental problem they have. Neither schizophrenia nor autism are curable, but only treatable, while some cancers, if spotted early enough, are able to be cured. Messing around with genes that are linked with mental problems like this would be highly dangerous for the individual and I hardly think we should be trying this out anytime soon as the gene doesn't cure cancer, but just possibly prevents some kinds.
yes but autism doesn't affect life expectancy and schizophrenia doesn't affect it much, but if you get cancer and it goes untreated you'll die.. also, just because a cancer is curable doesn't mean people get cured. thousands of people die from curable cancers. and as for choosing cancer over either of those illness's, i can't begin to understand who would choose something that in some cases will most likely give them a slow and painful death over having something like autism, but ok.. i suppose it's possible.

prevention is better than a cure. we have to work on ways to prevent cancer. it's even more important than finding cures in my opinion.


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Re: Gene Linked to Schizophrenia May Reduce Cancer Risk - January 24th 2010, 12:56 AM

As long as were not giving people schizophrenia just to prevent cancer then fine. Whatever. But I think I'm the only person who thinks... well people need to die eventually. I'd rather be schizophrenic free and get cancer than ever deal with schizophrenia.
And I'm speaking from experience. My boyfriend has it along with depression, and it kills me to see it destroy him like this.
I hate to say it, but there are people who would rather take cancer than schizophrenia. Maybe not because cancer might be curable, but because schizophrenia is such an awful thing, some people would gladly take death. Not saying everyone. For others this might be flipped around.


I think I'm the only person who thinks... Well we need things like cancer. I know that sounds really rude, and heartless, and awful. There are people probably reading this thinking "omg, my ___ died of cancer, what a bitch" I've had family die of cancer too, and I'm sorry if anyone takes this the wrong way. I really am. But we're doing too much to make mankind live longer and longer, I'm that kind of freak who thinks it's hurting the planet in the long run. I'm not saying people should die! I really REALLY wish people didn't have to die. I hate dealing with death of anyone. and I wish that the world could continue living peacefully no matter how big the human population got. But that's not likely... Death is a natural thing.. Even though it sucks.
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Re: Gene Linked to Schizophrenia May Reduce Cancer Risk - January 24th 2010, 10:52 PM

I'm not really sure I get this, but giving people schizophrenia to have a chance at preventing cancer is not a good idea. However, if it can cure cancer, that'd be kind of cool, if they could cure cancer and prevent people from becoming autistic or schizo


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