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Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 29th 2010, 02:07 AM

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A version of an iconic autobiography detailing a young Jewish girl’s two-year experience hiding from Nazis in a cramped “Secret Annex” has been pulled from the shelves of Culpeper County Public Schools.
“The Diary of a Young Girl: The Definitive Edition,” a vivid memoir of Anne Frank’s private thoughts during the German occupation of the Netherlands during World War II, will no longer be assigned to CCPS students, according to Jim Allen, director of instruction for the school system.
This book is usually given to eighth-grade middle school English students to read.
Citing a parent’s concern over the sexual nature of the vagina passage in the definitive edition, Allen said school officials immediately chose to pull this version and use an alternative copy.
“What we have asked is that this particular edition will not be taught,” Allen said from his office Wednesday morning. “I don’t want to make a big deal out of this. So we listened to the parent and we pulled it.”
Apparently, Anne’s father, Otto Frank, the sole survivor of the “Secret Annex,” felt the need to censor his daughter’s most intimate thoughts as well, eliminating about 30 percent of the original diary published in 1947.
He omitted parts where Anne criticized her mother and other Jews living in the confined quarters as well as some sexually suggestive references.
However, during the 50th anniversary of her death in a concentration camp, the Anne Frank Foundation published the unedited definitive version in 1995.
Sometimes dubbed controversial, this book has been translated into more than 50 languages — an English version in 1952, and transformed into a play and several movie versions.
The diary, which Anne received on her 13th birthday, chronicles the teenager’s life from July 1942 until she was arrested in August 1944. It is considered the most widely read literary composition about Holocaust victims.
According to Allen, a teacher had already assigned the book in the fall and students had completed the assignment before the complaint was made.
“I’m happy when parents get involved with these things because it lets me know that they are really looking and have their kids’ best interest (in mind). And that’s where good parenting and good teaching comes in.”
The alternative version will be used for future assignments,
he said.
The process of pulling a book
According to the school division’s “public complaint about learning resources” policy, a review committee consisting of the school’s principal, library media specialist, teacher, complainant, parent and/or student usually convene to discuss this type of issue.
The committee’s responsibility is to read, view or listen to the challenged material, read several reviews, check standard selection aids, talk with knowledgeable people about the material in question, make and file a recommendation with the principal and superintendent and notify the complainant of the recommendation. The complainant has the right to appeal any decision.
Allen suggested teachers become more familiar with any reading material before issuing an assignment and described this situation as a “teachable moment.”
Asked about other “pulled material,” Allen said there’s no specific list that he’s aware of for educations to use as a refernce.
“I don’t think a list exists,” he added. “We just try to deal with everything on a case-by-case basis.”
Any pulled material, Allen said, is usually stored in the librarian’s office.
According to Amazon.com, “Anne Frank: The Diary of a Young Girl,” tops the list of commonly banned children’s books in public schools nationwide.
The reason listed for banning this book is “for being too depressing for students.” Other books that made the Amazon list include “The Catcher in the Rye,” “Harry Potter,” “Of Mice and Men,” and “Harriet the Spy,” to name a few.



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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 29th 2010, 02:44 AM

Seriously?

Come on, it's not like you're going around asking what a vagina is in eighth grade. What's so wrong with learning about female anatomy, or hearing someone talking about a vagina? Why are sexual things such a touchy subject? It shouldn't be humiliating to talk about these things, and it's ridiculous to ban a book because it has a sexual reference. Almost every book has a sexual reference, unless you're reading the Cat and the Hat.

Teenagers are not little babies who need to be shielded from the world. Yeah, I know what a vagina and what sex is. That doesn't mean I'm going to stand on a public street screaming about my vagina or asking people to have sex with me because Anne Frank talks about it in her diary.
We might be minors, but that doesn't mean we're naive and can't handle reading about vagina's!

Also, in seventh grade I read "The catcher and the rye." I laughed because my Literature teacher was all like "are you sure you mom approves of this?" as if I didn't know about sex in seventh grade. Seriously! It's like we're thought of as stupid and far too impressionable. To be honest, it really ticks me off.





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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 29th 2010, 02:44 AM

So lemme get this straight. One of the most important pieces of writing ever, and they completely remove it from the district for ONE PARENT?

I understand maybe not teaching the explicit shit to elementary students, and some middle school students.

But completely?!

High school students are fully capable of handling this material. Hell, I'm sure most middle schoolers are. When i was in 8th grade I was reading "Night" and "The Things they Carried"

And on another matter, if the parent didn't like their kid learning it, have their kid exempt. DO NOT ALTER THE ENTIRE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR ONE CHILD.


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 29th 2010, 03:48 AM

My understanding is they just switched to a more censored copy of the book. Which I still think is a little silly, but it's nowhere near as bad as pulling it altogether.

Personally, I don't like the idea of pulling books at all. There's very, very little in a book that's actually going to be damaging to a child who's old enough to read something like that. Hell, I was reading the completely unabridged Athurian Legends around age ten. Those things are nasty. Yet it hardly did any harm. If a child is curious enough to actually read adult literature, that should be encouraged as much as possible.


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 29th 2010, 04:13 AM

I think they just changed to the original copy, not the newer, more sexual one that he father refused to publish.

I can understand not wanting a child to read sexual material, but couldn't they give them an alternative book, or another copy, instead of pulling the book for the whole class?


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 29th 2010, 04:32 AM

I seriously can't believe this. I mean, a sexual reference really isn't that big of a deal. It's eighth grade, for god's sake! In eighth grade I remember everyone was talking about sex anyway. It's not like they don't know what it is, no? I could imagine if it was a lower grade, but this is an important book that a lot of kids can learn from. I think it's ridiculous that this book was banned from that particular school, just because of that little thing. That's just my opinion.


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 29th 2010, 05:07 AM

Are you serious?! That's rediculous! I'm in eight grade, and by now like a quarter of the kids are having actual sex and then another quarter is having oral sex, and EVERYBODY hears about it, so there's like no kids in my grade who don't understand it or who would be offended by sexual content... I mean, they might be a bit immature about it, but they'd all get over it in two seconds! That's absolutely rediculous that that book is being pulled!
   
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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 29th 2010, 05:17 AM

Anne Frank was only 13 herself when she started writing the diary. She was just writing natural thoughts that people her age have. Do the parents of that kid really think their kid is so innocent that they don´t know or think about the same kind of stuff already? I haven´t actually read the unedited edition, but I can´t imagine it´s that bad. Anne was honest, but she wasn´t some kind of freaky porn writer.


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 29th 2010, 08:44 AM

I think it is stupid. I think it would be good for kids in the 8th grade (13 yrs old about) to see that other young people have thoughts about sex and what not. I mean, there is nothing to be ashamed of when it comes to sex but a lot of people are. But, if kids read that they are not the only ones with these thoughts it might help them out, you know? Teach them that it is normal.

However, as long as they did not pull the whole thing I am okay with it. I mean, kids still get to read it and all and get the message so it is not like they are banning the book in its entirety....


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 29th 2010, 05:56 PM

I just finished reading this book, the passage I think this is referring to is not especially sexual in nature- its a bit graphic, but its more of a biological reference really.




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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 29th 2010, 10:20 PM

I know parents just want to protect their kids, but to prevent the whole school from reading it is a bit selfish. If they're really that worried about it, they could at least use an edited version, rather than ban the whole book.




   
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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 29th 2010, 10:41 PM

I think that's stupid. But then again, everybody has different views on things. I just think that every 8th grader pretty much knows a lot of things, and saying something like that once isn't going to hurt anything. I mean, a lot of those parent's kids are probably doing much worse things without them knowing. But really, I think that's stupid for a parent to ruin it for a whole school. The Diary of Anne Frank holds a really good message, and it's personally one of my favorite books, and it's part of history. You learn and take a lot from it.


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 29th 2010, 10:49 PM

That book is amazing, and part of the most important events in history. There is no reason why this book should be banned, and should continue to be taught in schools. I suppose we should ban Night by Elie Wiesel as well, as It's basically a male version of Anne Frank.


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 29th 2010, 10:53 PM

that's just stupid. it's a great book and it was required reading for my history class when i was like 13..


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 30th 2010, 12:09 AM

Not only is it stupid, but it's outragous, " it's too depressing"

Thats what went on, what are they trying to protect them from, by that age, half the kids will be having sex themselves or a least thinkinh about it..

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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 30th 2010, 01:39 AM

This reminds me of my 7th and 8th grade English teacher. He had a huge library (well, for one person at least) of books in his classroom. Some of the books were a little explicit. He said, both years, "I have to do this" when relating to the more "mature" books
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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 30th 2010, 12:14 PM

People need to pay more attention to the article- it was replaced with an alternative copy, so they're still going to learn about it.

Personally although it's bizzare, people shouldn't get so worked up. In all honesty, are they missing our on some huge part of their education by missing one passage of a book describing the vagina? No.


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 30th 2010, 09:44 PM

I think it's a bit silly but not that bad since the book is still used, they're just omitting one part of it regarding a topic that the kids probably know anyways. If it was truly removing the book because of that one part, then I'd say that'd be ridiculous. I wonder though, does acting on the wishes of one parent coincide with the wishes of others? That is, since this one parent spoke up about the one part of it, I'm wondering if the school should have asked other parents on their opinions before censoring it. What if one parent was fine with it and wanted their child to read the part that was censored because it wasn't that bad? Bit hasty to react on the wishes of one parent though.
   
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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 30th 2010, 10:13 PM

I read this book in like 4th or 5th grade...

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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 30th 2010, 11:04 PM

'too depressing' ... LIFE is depressing its reality and children shudnt be held back from hearing the truth, even about sexual things. im not sure what 8grade is, cos im english. but if they are educated enough to be able to read that book, they should because it is very inspirational and wakes you up to real life by telling you what victims went through in those days. by teaching people about these horrible things, it encourages them not to start wars when there older and about the whole 'vagina' thing, half of us have one, the other half know what one is, they popped out of one
haha sorry.

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thats a good darn book too!! I am studying that at the moment, and it it such a clever book, fussy darn parents not letting there children read some good darn boooks!!! :S ...

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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 30th 2010, 11:10 PM

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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - January 31st 2010, 06:04 AM

Lord of the Rings is banned in some places I believe. Tons of books are banned.

I feel like it's insanely silly to take away from a learning experience because you think it's "Not right" or whatever. You should just not allow your child to read it, not ruin the experience for the other students. If their parents want them not to read it, they won't allow it, it's none of the first parent's business.

I do think it's an interesting point about how it's good when things like this happen because then at least parents are paying attention to their children's education. I'm going to have to have to ponder this a bit more...



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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 2nd 2010, 05:41 AM

I disliked the book, it personifies Germans as all being evil Nazi while only about 10% were a part of the Nazi party, and still today 10% support the Neo-Nazi groups. Although I believe in the Holocaust, tragic event truly, although I feel it has been, blown-out of proportion and that 6 million Jews is more then possible in the amount of time. If you want to talk about that more message me as that is a tangent. I do believe that portions of her diary were faked, as it was written in a ball-point pen, which wasn't available until after World War 2.
   
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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 6th 2010, 10:18 PM

Another thing that makes this kind of stupid is that a lot of Middle Schools teach Sex Education (some states like California even require that schools offer it). So what's wrong with a book that talks about a sexual reference? The kids would probably hear about that stuff in 7th grade science class anyway!


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 7th 2010, 09:19 PM

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I disliked the book, it personifies Germans as all being evil Nazi while only about 10% were a part of the Nazi party, and still today 10% support the Neo-Nazi groups. Although I believe in the Holocaust, tragic event truly, although I feel it has been, blown-out of proportion and that 6 million Jews is more then possible in the amount of time. If you want to talk about that more message me as that is a tangent. I do believe that portions of her diary were faked, as it was written in a ball-point pen, which wasn't available until after World War 2.
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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 7th 2010, 09:25 PM

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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 8th 2010, 12:14 AM

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Lord of the Rings is banned in some places I believe. Tons of books are banned.

I feel like it's insanely silly to take away from a learning experience because you think it's "Not right" or whatever. You should just not allow your child to read it, not ruin the experience for the other students. If their parents want them not to read it, they won't allow it, it's none of the first parent's business.

I do think it's an interesting point about how it's good when things like this happen because then at least parents are paying attention to their children's education. I'm going to have to have to ponder this a bit more...
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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 14th 2010, 06:56 PM

This is seriously one of the most stupid things ever. What is wrong with the vagina being mentioned? Seriously. Even worse, it's banned because of ONE parent raising concerns. This is exactly why I don't believe in censorship. It's meant to protect certain age groups from offensive content but it's being taken too far.

Like many others here, I thought that the book was amazing. There is NOTHING offensive and it's an extremely important book. Banning it is just pathetic and stupid, especially when there's nothing that'll harm others!



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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 15th 2010, 06:15 AM

It depends on which version they are reading also, one of them is very much anti-German, and rather insulting to me.


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 17th 2010, 11:25 PM

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It depends on which version they are reading also, one of them is very much anti-German, and rather insulting to me.
More Anti- Nazi, not Anti- German. There's a difference.


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 18th 2010, 12:53 AM

as the song says"they dont need to burn the books they just remove then"

yes this case may not be that bad(simple handing out a different version of the book) but this is the kind of act that leads to cencorship if they can remove a passage then there gunna remove chapters and eventually start pulling some books entirly its a slope i dont want to see us slide down


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 18th 2010, 01:17 AM

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It depends on which version they are reading also, one of them is very much anti-German, and rather insulting to me.

The Bible specifically tells people that I am going to hell. It's very much anti-Buddhist, and rather insulting to me.

Let's ban the Bible from America because it offends me.


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 18th 2010, 01:28 AM

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The Bible specifically tells people that I am going to hell. It's very much anti-Buddhist, and rather insulting to me.

Let's ban the Bible from America because it offends me.
Yes but we are not allowed to teach the Bible in public school, but this is in a public school, and will be offensive to the German students who have to read it.


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 18th 2010, 01:36 AM

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Yes but we are not allowed to teach the Bible in public school, but this is in a public school, and will be offensive to the German students who have to read it.
well to be honest that whole holocaust thing was kinda dick


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 18th 2010, 01:47 AM

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Yes but we are not allowed to teach the Bible in public school, but this is in a public school, and will be offensive to the German students who have to read it.
Bud, look at my profile. I'm German. VERY much German. I've never ONCE felt offended by any version of Anne Frank. Maybe you need to chill a little bit. Being PC for freaking Anne Frank will get no one anywhere...

Oh, and I still have to say, "One Nation under God." whenever I say the pledge of allegiance. Oh my! I'm offended!

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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 18th 2010, 01:49 AM

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well to be honest that whole holocaust thing was kinda dick
Hahaha That just made my night .

I think people understand, though that not all Germans were Nazis and that it's stupid to lump then all together.
The Nazis were and are dicks. It's not anti-German, it just paints Nazis in a bad light. Frankly, the worse they look, the better . Douchebags, the lot of them.


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 18th 2010, 03:47 AM

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So You say the book offends you explain why you have a grudge?


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 18th 2010, 05:10 AM

Uh, don't they start teaching sex ed earlier than that? I've never read Anne Frank's diary so I don't know what they pulled from it, but it couldn't have been that bad. Besides that, what's so horrible about sex? It's a natural thing. It's good for children to learn about it. There's probably things that are a lot more horrifying than sex in that book.


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 18th 2010, 05:17 AM

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Yes but we are not allowed to teach the Bible in public school, but this is in a public school, and will be offensive to the German students who have to read it.
That's because the Bible isn't fact, while Anne Frank's diary is. Though I don't see how it is offensive to German students. People that lived in my country a century ago enslaved people based on the colour of their skin, but learning about slavery in school doesn't offend me.


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Re: Parent has Anne Frank Book banned from School!! - February 18th 2010, 06:50 AM

People are afraid of sexuality to a very unhealthy extent. I haven't read this copy in a loooong time, but I do recall reading it - and it's not blatantly lewd at all - namely dealing with the development of her body through puberty/adolescence. I think that the inclusion of it makes it more relateable to young teenagers. By removing parts of the diary, they are removing pieces of the person that wrote it - and that's an insult to her, and it's a shame for the children reading it.

I remember my sophomore year of highschool - I was fifteen, and I had a Modern & Contemporary American Drama class. We read plays that would've made most adults blush - not only did we read them, but we discussed them, developed ideas and opinions on them! We were treated like adults, and in return we acted like adults. It was the best class I've ever taken thus far and it inspired me more than most things have. Every single kid that's come out of that class(my class, and those before mine) have agreed.


I think that the reason our school system is failing most kids is because it DOESN'T stretch their mind, challenge any pre-concieved notions, and it most certainly does not allow any room for development.

I go to a performing arts school - and I can say that there is a vast difference between the quality of the academic and artistic classes - for every major, really. The artistic classes(art/theatre history, directing, music theory, etc, etc) are the classes that everyone draws the most from - - because these art classes are not required to follow the state curriculum. They're college courses - and the grade 9-12 age-group is handling it fine, and is appropriately challenged by it.


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