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Americans should look at this important issue from Jan 2010 - February 6th 2010, 01:34 AM

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...tive_order.pdf


Whats his reason to Declare this executive order?


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Re: Americans should look at this important issue from Jan 2010 - February 6th 2010, 03:19 AM

Why is it important? Looks like standard political paper pushing to me.


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Re: Americans should look at this important issue from Jan 2010 - February 6th 2010, 03:24 AM

Is this what he mentioned in the State of the Union? Congress wouldn't do it, so he'd issue an order?


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Re: Americans should look at this important issue from Jan 2010 - February 6th 2010, 03:27 AM

Pretext for Martial law.


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Re: Americans should look at this important issue from Jan 2010 - February 6th 2010, 03:36 AM

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Pretext for Martial law.
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Re: Americans should look at this important issue from Jan 2010 - February 6th 2010, 04:50 AM

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Why are some of you Americans so paranoid? He is spreading power to more people, not giving himself more, and it's made to make a balance of power within its structure (10 councilers, no more then 5 from each party). It's to aid in burocratic (sp) cohension of certain fields. They don't really have any power from what I read, more just a review commitee. Maybe I'm wrong? But it doesn't seem like a big deal?
   
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Re: Americans should look at this important issue from Jan 2010 - February 6th 2010, 05:17 AM

I dunno what the big deal is either.
I don't even really understand this thread to be honest.
Someone want to explain to me?




   
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Re: Americans should look at this important issue from Jan 2010 - February 6th 2010, 06:11 AM

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Whats his reason to Declare this executive order?
To improve the efficiency of any response needed by the US government to defend it's people from:

  1. Terrorist attack
  2. Natural disaster
  3. Any other internal events relevant to needing the advice from government agencies and departments, "as may be designated by the Secretary of Defense or the Secretary of Homeland Security".
As I understand it, anyway.
You're response is exactly that to a lot of blogs that posted on the subject - all getting into quite the tizz over something that was mandated by congress under President Bush. It sailed through both chambers with unanimous bi-partisan support and become Public Law No: 110-181 in January 2008.

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Buried in the 602 pg bill (pg 498) was Section 1822 – aka the mandate:
SEC. 1822. COUNCIL OF GOVERNORS.
The President shall establish a bipartisan Council of Governors to advise the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the White House Homeland Security Council on matters related to the National Guard and civil support missions.
President Bush never created the Council...
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The source there also details a timeline from the groundwork until the creation of the council. It's a good article, you may find it interesting to read, it doesn't answer much and asks the same question "why now", but since 2001, nothing like it has been set up, I do believe? Not this encompassing.


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Re: Americans should look at this important issue from Jan 2010 - February 6th 2010, 06:17 AM

I agree that this isn't a big issue in my opinion.

(I do want to say not ALL American's are paranoid. )

May I ask Zack, what about this caught your attention? Maybe we can grab some more insight on what you're thinking?



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Re: Americans should look at this important issue from Jan 2010 - February 6th 2010, 08:36 AM

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Pretext for Martial law.
Good to know people can still have a good sense of humor about politics. I'll send you a foil hat next Christmas.

If this was mandated back in '01, I'm curious about why the Bushies never got around to it.


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Re: Americans should look at this important issue from Jan 2010 - February 6th 2010, 03:50 PM

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Hee hee hee. We may be paranoid as fuck, but we've got one hell of a sense of humor.



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Re: Americans should look at this important issue from Jan 2010 - February 7th 2010, 03:30 PM

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A council of governors with a restricted term and no pay = martial law.



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