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"All blacks need to leave the store" - March 18th 2010, 11:43 AM

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I hope you're having a super fine day.

Just before 5 PM on Sunday, March the 14th, at a Southern New Jersey Wal-Mart - a voice was heard over the public address system. [The loud speakers in the store - you know - where you would usually hear something like, "Attention Walmart Shoppers - pork rines are now 30% off]

"All blacks need to leave the store."

Wal-Mart is 'appalled'.

No one knows WHO gave that message. But it was a man - and the incident is being investigated as a 'suspected bias intimidation CRIME'.

Was it a silly thing to do? Or course. Should customer access [Assuming it was a customer and NOT a Wal-Mart employee] to the store speaker system be limited or even denied entirely - absolutely. Was what happened a CRIME? NO! Or at least it shouldn't be.

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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 18th 2010, 01:07 PM

Security tapes should have caught the person who made this scene!


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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 18th 2010, 01:10 PM

I think they should have a better eye on their public address system, it says their are some telephones used to do it which can be accessed by customers and some can't be seen by the security cameras. If that's the case, anyone could have done it and walked out without anyone even noticing it was them.

I think the whole investigation on it though is stupid. It was probably just a joke to the person who did it and as said, it could have been literally anyone who did it so what are the chances of them finding the person responsible unless of course there was a chance they were caught on camera. They should just make things for staff use only possibly to be used by staff and not have them in customers reach to save incidents like this in the future and leave it at that.
   
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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 18th 2010, 01:50 PM

Security will find them and ban them. And I think it could be seen as a crime as it is out right racism. Not 100% sure though.



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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 18th 2010, 02:38 PM

I don't think it was a good or mature thing to do, but I think having a big investigation into it and treating it as a crime is silly. I'm sure some teen was going through a "100 things to do in Walmart" list or something similar and thought it'd be funny to see what happened. Hell, I think it'd be funny to try something like that if I could say something non-racist and get away with it.

Honestly, people need to understand it was a joke, one in bad taste sure, but still just a joke. It's not the end of the world, move on and do something more important than investigating a prank.


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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 18th 2010, 03:23 PM

isn't racism like that technically considered a crime though? idk. meh, the guy should just be banned from the store or if he's an employee he should be fired and banned.


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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 18th 2010, 07:00 PM

This is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure it was a joke, and the chance of them finding the person who said it is slim to none. They should have locks on their PA system, instead of leaving it so anyone could use it. To be frank, it could have been much worse, and although it is wrong to say, is it really racist? They didn't say "All blacks should leave because you are inferior to white people and don't have the right to shop here" or "Blacks should all die". They could have said that all whites should leave, and I doubt there would be much debate over that if they had. What I'm getting at is that, although it was wrong, I doubt anything will come of it.


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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 18th 2010, 09:05 PM

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isn't racism like that technically considered a crime though? idk. meh, the guy should just be banned from the store or if he's an employee he should be fired and banned.
Racism itself is not a crime but a crime against another person is a crime in other words racial violence is the crime.


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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 19th 2010, 06:44 AM

Assuming there's no policy in Wal-Mart to punish people who misuse the telephone equipment, why exactly are police being called in? The person cant really be arrested for anything. The voice identification, although their only "lead" is one of the poorest ways of identifying someone, worst than visual eye-witness. Thus, their evidence is so weak that if they do try to arrest the person and bring them to court, any lawyer with half a brain will instantly argue this and point out what the American Psychology-Law Association has said about such a method of identification in that it is so pathetically weak. They could use a comparative voice technology program to support the person who identifies the man, which would have more solid evidence but that presupposes they get a) the man and b) the man with the correct voice and not a very similar voice. On top of that, there's the issue of the content of what was said: was it a racist, disciminatory comment? At first glance it may seem to be so but the intent is pretty ambiguous, it's really hard to figure out if this was meant to be racist and disciminatory or not.

I think it was probably a harmless little prank and the guilty parties here are the person and Wal-Mart for giving such easy access without proper camera monitoring.

The police say it's a "suspected bias intimidation crime", well possibly but it could also be a silly little prank where it'd be a waste of resources to pursue.
   
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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 19th 2010, 11:15 AM

Obviously what he done wasn't "good" but I think the investigation is going over the top :/ I agree with everything Cody just said.


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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 19th 2010, 05:36 PM

I believe that whether you are black, or white, we are all the same inside. I think that what that person did was RUDE and INCONSIDERATE!! I hope that they find out who it was..



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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 19th 2010, 05:56 PM

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I believe that whether you are black, or white, we are all the same inside. I think that what that person did was RUDE and INCONSIDERATE!! I hope that they find out who it was..
I agree that is was both rude and inconsiderate. I still think that spending resources to find out who did it is a total waste of time and more of a PR move than anything.


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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 19th 2010, 08:15 PM

Dumb thing to do, and ignorant.

By the same token, I've seen people say that they won't shop at Wal-Mart for awhile because of it. I personally think that is just as stupid, as it wasn't Wal-Mart that did it, it was some customer or employee that decided to do something stupid. Don't judge a company based on one idiot.
   
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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 19th 2010, 09:12 PM

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Dumb thing to do, and ignorant.

By the same token, I've seen people say that they won't shop at Wal-Mart for awhile because of it. I personally think that is just as stupid, as it wasn't Wal-Mart that did it, it was some customer or employee that decided to do something stupid. Don't judge a company based on one idiot.
People wants to vent off their anger at something. They ended up choosing Wal-Mart. As ignorant and stupid it sounds...


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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 20th 2010, 10:15 PM

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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 20th 2010, 10:23 PM

I don't believe that it's a crime, no. Everyone is entitled to freedom of speech and their own beliefs, and if they feel that blacks should leave the store then it's their right to voice that, even if it is wrong and offensive. It shouldn't be tolerated by the store, and he should be talked to about this, but he shouldn't be deemed a criminal.

And I doubt it would have been as controversial if someone had said "All whites need to leave the store..."





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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 20th 2010, 10:29 PM

The funny thing about this is the way everyone is reacting. If people had just shrugged it off and paid it no mind then the "prank" would have no effect. The reactions that people had are probably what the person was going for. If you were to say in a store "All white people must leave the store" most people would just shrug it off and pay it no mind. By reacting people are fueling the fire and letting the prankster win.
   
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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 20th 2010, 11:04 PM

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Re: "All blacks need to leave the store" - March 21st 2010, 05:51 AM

Stupid idea but it was a joke. I've seen it done before. He probably should of come up with something better to say that wasnt going to offend people though. But yeah, not a big deal. The guy should be banned from Walmart and the mic should be moved away from public access and that should be the end of it.


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