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Talking Legalization of weed - September 29th 2010, 05:43 PM

when will it happen in the U.S. will the Feds start cracking down on California? What do you think will happen??
   
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Re: Legalization of weed - September 29th 2010, 06:03 PM

To be honest, I don't think it's going to happen anywhere any time soon. They've recently put it up a class in the UK. So it might be a while (if ever) before they legalise weed.



   
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 03:07 AM

It probably won't happen anytime soon.
Honestly, I hope they don't legalize weed.
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 03:09 AM

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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 03:12 AM

Weed is a lot safer for you and those around you than alcohol.

It needs to be legalized, and I hope it is.

And keep in mind, this is all coming from someone who (as of today) has never gotten high in her life.
   
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 03:23 AM

hope it stays illegal and people who do it get arrested... (coming from someone who has a father who smokes the shit)
   
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 04:24 AM

Other than personal reasons where someone uses it and affects your life, why do the people in this thread hope that it does not get legalized?

I think it should get legalized just like tobacco and alcohol. It seems to be criminalized for petty social and political reasons that have no basis in the actual science of the substance, which is what matters.


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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 08:08 AM

What's really criminal is how people are more focused on legalizing a drug for pleasure, then fixing the economy, or stabalizing the Middle East.


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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 11:29 AM

hmm. well with the appropriate health warnings i don't see why not. Most people who smoke it are going to smoke it whether it's legal or not anyway. I think smoking marijuana is pretty stupid because there are quite a few short and long term health risks but it should be an individual choice i suppose. may as well make some money out of these idiots who want to do drugs.


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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 02:14 PM

It should either be legalized, since really, it is less harmful than a lot of other things. Or. They should make tobacco and alcohol illegal. Tobacco more so, but yeah.
Either legalize it, or make the others illegal. I mean, if it were legal, my parents wouldn't CARE if I did it :P but again, coming from someone who has never once gotten high.



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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 03:10 PM

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Other than personal reasons where someone uses it and affects your life, why do the people in this thread hope that it does not get legalized?

I think it should get legalized just like tobacco and alcohol. It seems to be criminalized for petty social and political reasons that have no basis in the actual science of the substance, which is what matters.
It's addicting. I know people addicted to it. Lots of people.
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 03:59 PM

It's not an addictive substance.



   
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 04:13 PM

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no...no you don't see lots of people addicted to it

just because someone smoke everyday doesn't mean they are addicted, I'ev smoked daily for the past 3 years and I fiend smokes more often then I do weed (I smoke maybe a pack of cigs a week)


like i said, I smoke daily and could careless if people want it legalized, I personelly don't care myself, but to the people who are making shit up, please stop.
   
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 04:21 PM

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It's addicting. I know people addicted to it. Lots of people.
I've seen lives destroyed by it.
Weed is only addictive in a sort of mental way. It's not physically addictive, your body doesn't start to crave it. Only your mind. (I find it hard to explain what I'm trying to say, I hope this is clear)

Cigarettes, however ...
   
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 04:25 PM

Tobacco is addictive, yes. But weed isn't. It's not an addictive substance. You may be 'addicted' to be habit of smoking weed, but it's not physically addictive.



   
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 04:27 PM

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Tobacco is addictive, yes. But weed isn't. It's not an addictive substance. You may be 'addicted' to be habit of smoking weed, but it's not physically addictive.
Yeah .. that's pretty much what I said. You said it in better terms, I think.
   
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 04:34 PM

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no...no you don't see lots of people addicted to it

just because someone smoke everyday doesn't mean they are addicted, I'ev smoked daily for the past 3 years and I fiend smokes more often then I do weed (I smoke maybe a pack of cigs a week)


like i said, I smoke daily and could careless if people want it legalized, I personelly don't care myself, but to the people who are making shit up, please stop.
I know people who have told me that they can't stop smoking weed, yet they want to.
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 04:44 PM

Yeah, but it's still not addictive. They obviously have further issues as to why they cannot quit smoking, but thats not the 'addictiveness' of weed.



   
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 04:47 PM

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I know people who have told me that they can't stop smoking weed, yet they want to.
I can't stop eating enormous amounts of carbs, yet I want to because I want to not gain weight again. But I can't because I have shitty will power, no matter how many plans I make to stop I can't do it. But I am not physically addicted to carbs. It's the same with weed. Those people are not going to go through physical withdrawl if they stop smoking weed, they just can't stop because it's a habit. It took me 20 years to stop bitting my nails, but that doesn't mean I was addicted to it.

Now alchohol, that shit is addictive. Yet perfectly legal, and will remain perfectly legal, because as long as you aren't causing harm to others (such as driving while intoxicated) it's your business. If someone wants to smoke weed, that's their business. I mean how often do you hear about deaths caused by weed? Now how often do you hear about deaths caused by alchohol or tobacco?

Weed should be legal, because honestly it's the STUPIDEST thing to go to jail for. And we wonder why we have overcrowded jails.


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I can't stop eating enormous amounts of carbs, yet I want to because I want to not gain weight again. But I can't because I have shitty will power, no matter how many plans I make to stop I can't do it. But I am not physically addicted to carbs. It's the same with weed. Those people are not going to go through physical withdrawl if they stop smoking weed, they just can't stop because it's a habit. It took me 20 years to stop bitting my nails, but that doesn't mean I was addicted to it.

Now alchohol, that shit is addictive. Yet perfectly legal, and will remain perfectly legal, because as long as you aren't causing harm to others (such as driving while intoxicated) it's your business. If someone wants to smoke weed, that's their business. I mean how often do you hear about deaths caused by weed? Now how often do you hear about deaths caused by alchohol or tobacco?

Weed should be legal, because honestly it's the STUPIDEST thing to go to jail for. And we wonder why we have overcrowded jails.
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 05:01 PM

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I know people who have had withdrawl when trying to stop smoking weed.

your really grasping for straws here, these "people" probably aren't real, studies are.
   
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I can't stop eating enormous amounts of carbs, yet I want to because I want to not gain weight again. But I can't because I have shitty will power, no matter how many plans I make to stop I can't do it. But I am not physically addicted to carbs. It's the same with weed. Those people are not going to go through physical withdrawl if they stop smoking weed, they just can't stop because it's a habit. It took me 20 years to stop bitting my nails, but that doesn't mean I was addicted to it.

Now alchohol, that shit is addictive. Yet perfectly legal, and will remain perfectly legal, because as long as you aren't causing harm to others (such as driving while intoxicated) it's your business. If someone wants to smoke weed, that's their business. I mean how often do you hear about deaths caused by weed? Now how often do you hear about deaths caused by alchohol or tobacco?

Weed should be legal, because honestly it's the STUPIDEST thing to go to jail for. And we wonder why we have overcrowded jails.
I have to completely agree with this. Weed is much less harmful and addictive than alcohol is, yet that is completely legal and available on every street.

I don't want to copy what was already said, so I'll just quote it so you can read it again



   
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 05:04 PM

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your really grasping for straws here, these "people" probably aren't real, studies are.
Lol well then I will need to tell my friends that they aren't real people.
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Lol well then I will need to tell my friends that they aren't real people.

If your being serious about all this, I really really feel sorry for your "friends" serious lack of will power,
I've quit for months at a time, and the only problems I've had are a bit of sleep issues for the first 2-3 days, but thats cause I was used to the habit of smoking before going to bed (a j like an hour before i went to bed).
   
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I have to completely agree with this. Weed is much less harmful and addictive than alcohol is, yet that is completely legal and available on every street.

I don't want to copy what was already said, so I'll just quote it so you can read it again
depending on where you are, you can say this about weed :P
   
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If your being serious about all this, I really really feel sorry for your "friends" serious lack of will power,
I've quit for months at a time, and the only problems I've had are a bit of sleep issues for the first 2-3 days, but thats cause I was used to the habit of smoking before going to bed (a j like an hour before i went to bed).
I am being very serious about this.
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 05:12 PM

Quitting smoking weed is just the same, if not easier than quitting regular tobacco smoking. If your friends use tobacco when smoking weed, then it can makes sense that it's difficult to give up, because it's the tobacco that is addictive, not the weed.

It's all about will power. My boyfriend has given up smoking for the past 3 days. He hasn't had a cigarette, and for the first day or two, he had a few of those niquitin mint things, and then he's just stopped and not had one for days. If you have will power like that, you can do anything. They obviously weren't trying hard enough.



   
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 06:06 PM

There is no argument against keeping weed illegal that cannot be applied to alcohol, cigarettes, fast food, and Justin Beiber.

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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 06:41 PM

I don't think you should be able to drive and be high. I have seen my ex step dad skid off the road and have a black out. O__o
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 06:50 PM

Oh, definitely not driving while under the influence of drugs. The same rules apply as with alcohol when driving is concerned.



   
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 06:58 PM

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Oh, definitely not driving while under the influence of drugs. The same rules apply as with alcohol when driving is concerned.
Sorry if this is ignorant...but can you get arrested if your driving when your high.. just like someone can if they are DUTI?




   
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 06:59 PM

Yes you can. It's driving under the influence of drugs



   
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 07:00 PM

Wow, i feel stupid. -___-

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Never have truer words been spoken.

That said, i see no reason for it to be a criminal offence just to take it. There are no sideeffects to the person, other than they get a high and naturally they might be acting retarded for the next hour or so. The fact remains that it's still safer than alcohol or smoking, both of which are legal.
   
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I am being very serious about this.
I know people who have experienced WITHDRAWL symptoms.
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 09:43 PM

I'm not sure the arguments regarding the drug being safer than alcohol or tobacco are on their own necessarily good reasons for its legalisation. Being towed down the street on rollerskates might be safe in certain circumstances but you're still going to get arrested for it. While that is an exceptionally random example it's valid in that describing cannabis as "safe" in comparison to two of the most addictive and potentially harmful substances known to man still deemed fit for human consumption isn't really saying much. Cannabis usage still has associated health risks - let's be realistic, anything that messes with your brain chemistry like THC is going to carry its risks - and until those risks are fully realised and evaluated I think questions of legalisation are premature.


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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 10:02 PM

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It's addicting. I know people addicted to it. Lots of people.
I've seen lives destroyed by it.
This gets said endlessly: it's psychologically addicting, just like computer games are. I know people who are addicted to computer games and one person whose university career as a student may have been completely destroyed by it. Psychological addiction is not physiological addiction, which is what many of the substances have that puts them on a different playing field.

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So? There is not a strong dependence on it and since it's only a psychological addiction mostly, it takes will power. The fact they lack this will power is what you should be focused on.

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I know people who have had withdrawl when trying to stop smoking weed.
What are these withdrawl symptoms? I don't care what your "friends" or these people experienced because you can be making all that up and there's no way to verify it. Give links of scientific, peer-reviewed studies that show a) withdrawl symptoms with their average durations and b) how addicting it is. That is, if you're actually serious.

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I'm not sure the arguments regarding the drug being safer than alcohol or tobacco are on their own necessarily good reasons for its legalisation. Being towed down the street on rollerskates might be safe in certain circumstances but you're still going to get arrested for it. While that is an exceptionally random example it's valid in that describing cannabis as "safe" in comparison to two of the most addictive and potentially harmful substances known to man still deemed fit for human consumption isn't really saying much. Cannabis usage still has associated health risks - let's be realistic, anything that messes with your brain chemistry like THC is going to carry its risks - and until those risks are fully realised and evaluated I think questions of legalisation are premature.
You have a point, there are health risks. Anything changes neurochemistry but unlike the other substances, synthetic THC-based medications are being made and used since the THC has shown to have health benefits in certain conditions. It has its own risks in general and for other conditions but this health benefit puts it on a different level than alcohol, tobacco and the like. Whether it's "safer" or not is a whole other debate but my point is not about it being "safer", just that it does have potential health benefits that are recognized. If a substance is to be legalized based on its general harmfulness, then marijuana should be legalized because it does carry some benefits.


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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 10:20 PM

Marijuana DOES have withdrawal symptoms! I saw my step dad go through them. O__o

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Re: Legalization of weed - October 1st 2010, 11:27 PM

I have to disagree with people saying it's not dangerous. I know two people personally who have had seizures after smoking weed.
   
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Re: Legalization of weed - October 2nd 2010, 01:03 AM

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I have to disagree with people saying it's not dangerous. I know two people personally who have had seizures after smoking weed.
i agree that it's dangerous but so is drinking alcohol. i've seen quite a few people hospitalised from alcohol. and obviously smoking is dangerous and everyone knows the health risks. what makes weed different? i don't personally see it as being any more dangerous than binge drinking or chain smoking.


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