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Young people binge drinking. - October 4th 2010, 11:16 PM

I'm watching "Cherry Goes Drinking" I find it really really depressing :| Okay, I admit I used to drink when I was young (15/16) but I used to know when to stop. I very very rarely drink now as... tbh I don't like it anymore.

I understand how alcohol makes you more confident but am I the only one who thinks if you have low confidence you should try and fix it without alcohol? It just clouds the real problems.

When I go out with friends and I don't drink they always seem to tell me to drink and "have fun" I don't see why you need alcohol to have a good time with friends :|

I just see young girls at night where I live dressed like... well, excuse my language but complete sluts when going out drinking. Am I the only one who finds it sad?

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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 12:31 AM

I absolutely hate alcohol. I'm 20, gonna be 21 in March, and I have never had an interest in it. To me, I don't see a point in getting drunk. If you drink to relax, then I think that's understandable. But if you go out and party with friends, I think that you're using alcohol because your life is just boring and have nothing else to do with yourself.
   
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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 02:47 AM

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I absolutely hate alcohol. I'm 20, gonna be 21 in March, and I have never had an interest in it. To me, I don't see a point in getting drunk. If you drink to relax, then I think that's understandable. But if you go out and party with friends, I think that you're using alcohol because your life is just boring and have nothing else to do with yourself.

ALot of people in college party and mantain a very high intellect, in fact, my family members do :P , one's double majored in uni and the other is in uni as well, so thats pretty weird to say, i can understand that some people shouldn't, but alot of people get wasted and go on in life, look at any uni.
   
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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 03:33 AM

I have never drank in my life and I never will. I see no point to drink. You don't have to drink to have a good time.
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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 03:53 AM

I don't see anything wrong with going out with friends to have some drinks. In fact drinking is actually healthy for you being drunk is not, but drinking a glass of red wine every day will improve your health significantly according to my doctor.


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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 06:12 AM

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I don't see anything wrong with going out with friends to have some drinks. In fact drinking is actually healthy for you being drunk is not, but drinking a glass of red wine every day will improve your health significantly according to my doctor.
Yea going out for a few drinks is fine....but its those 'few' drinks that can turn into 'a few more drinks' and then your out for the night. And there are so many things that can 'improve your health significantly' but who is going to afford a glass of wine a day!?! Also, there are better things for you than wine...for example water!
Basically, if you can control it, that is fine, but binge drinking is very very bad in my opinion, my mum does never drink and she is very healthy, i plan to follow her footsteps.
   
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Yea going out for a few drinks is fine....but its those 'few' drinks that can turn into 'a few more drinks' and then your out for the night. And there are so many things that can 'improve your health significantly' but who is going to afford a glass of wine a day!?! Also, there are better things for you than wine...for example water!
Basically, if you can control it, that is fine, but binge drinking is very very bad in my opinion, my mum does never drink and she is very healthy, i plan to follow her footsteps.
Indeed drinking is moderation is the best, but who said you have to go get wasted when you go out with your friends and have a few drinks? A "few" drinks can stay a "few" drinks it doesn't always turn into "a few more" it's called self control.
And I never said to replace water with wine, of course if you can't afford to buy wine than don't! You will obviously buy water instead but if you can afford it why not? My grandfather drinks a glass of wine and he is VERY healthy and I plan to follow his footsteps.


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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 08:33 AM

Just let people do what they want and let them suffer the concequences of their actions, they have to learn one day, they just need to be shown no sympathy the next day *mwhahaha*
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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 12:36 PM

The only things I drink anymore is WKD purely because it doesn't make me drunk. I haven't been "drunk" for about 5 months :/ I don't even know why I drink that, I suppose I actually like the taste of WKD.

(if you don't know what WKD is: http://www.wkd.co.uk/pages/agegate it's basically an alcopop)

Why is binge drinking so socially acceptable in Britain? I honestly feel like the odd one out for not doing it, it shouldn't be the case at all.


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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 12:54 PM

I dont think binge drinking to an extreme is accaptable at all.
I dont see the appeal of going out every weekend and getting sloshed, to make urself feel ill the same night and the next day?

But I will admit I binge drink to the point of being happily drunk, but this is on special occasions like birthdays etc. I dont go as far as making myself sick and passing out cold.


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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 03:47 PM

I was watching this last night and was actually quite horrified myself.

Admittedly, at friends and special occasions, Ill have some alcohol, but not to the drunk point. Just a few glasses. Yes, at party's I normally let myself get drunk but it's not very often. Every few months.

It' just on it, they were getting drunk, literally every night. And it's like, they were going out at night late drunk, and it just seem to put them in so much danger.


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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 04:07 PM

I don't drink at all. And I think young people drinking AT ALL is unacceptable. Nevermind binge drinking.

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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 04:37 PM

I don't have a problem with teenagers having a bit of a drink, but I just don't see the point in binge drinking. It's quite sad when someone says that "it's only been a good night out if you don't remember it". Surely that defeats the whole point O.o


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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 06:00 PM

I have no problem with people drinking but I'm definitely not a fan of binge drinking, or just getting drunk in general really. To me it seems pointless. It's really an accepted part of culture here in Ireland though... people don't believe if you when you say you don't drink/get drunk.
   
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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 07:22 PM

I find binge drinking unacceptable my brother Stephen used to binge drink and it hurt the whole family. When a teen is binge drinking it's dangerous. When I was like 12,13 I would sneak whatever alcohol I could find. But I did it maybe once or twice what I did was put my life in danger. I can't have any alcohol AT ALL because of my medications I take 12 pills a day 20 if you count my extra medication so if I had any alcohol while on my meds i'd be in deep trouble


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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 07:48 PM

I watched it too and found it really a bit sad. When I go out, I do drink and I do get drunk, and I go out at Uni 2 times a week. But it's nothing like that. I have a dance and a good time, I don't forget what I've done and I've never done something I've regretted really. I would never behave the way that some of those girls did. I drink because I just have a better time when I'm drunk.. does this mean I can't have a good time sober? NO. I just have a BETTER time. Does this mean I have no confidence? NO. Does this mean I don't work hard? NO. Does this mean I am boring/don't have other things to do? NO. It's also for me a big coping mechanism... I'm studying medicine at Uni and it is VERY HARD WORK. Medics have a reputation for being the people that party the hardest and it's completely true, we do! Alcohol is a big part of the social scene and if I was not drinking I'd feel somewhat excluded from that. Work hard, party hard.

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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 08:38 PM

Back when I smoked I got asked for I.D. 95% of the time. When I went to clubs with my friends (back when I was drinking now and then) I don't think I have ever been in one that didn't ask for I.D. They've cracked down on this a LOT more than before. I don't think it's helping us much as they'd like though :/ underage people will get alcohol no matter what. They will get an older friend to get them some, get a fake I.D., give someone outside a shop money to get them drink, get drink from their house etc.


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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 08:59 PM

I think the problem is probably linked to what appears to be a much lower level of self-confidence in teenagers/young people compared with previous generations. I may be generalising a lot - for which I apologise as that's not my thing - but within my own age group I've noticed a lot of people with much lower self-confidence than I would have expected in light of other factors (academic achievements, social life, activities etc.). Given that a lot of people I knew at university drank to "escape" (which makes it sound more dramatic than it probably was but hey...) or else to relax in social situations it does make me wonder about the whole confidence issue - and this is coming from someone who has got quite low self-confidence and has had for some time.

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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 09:15 PM

When I was 15 through to 17 I recall that I developed the habit of drinking vodka straight. I purely wanted to get hammered, mainly because it was a relatively new experience and I always enjoyed the way people would say I was 'a hard drinker'. Remarkably I've only ever got sick twice and blacked out once - a lot of it was due to me enjoying the trying to stay focused under the pressur eof the cloud that descends on you when you're drunk - sometimes it would feel like I was walking through water.

I used to be quite violent under alcohol when I was younger too. I used to get in a few fights, try to barge my way into nightclubs and generally cause trouble. I drank because it was fun and because I just enjoyed it.

I did change a it when I was 17. I left the army, which was probably a help. I was also working and after work in London I'd head down with my mates to the pub and we'd have 3 or 4 pints of bitter (ale) and we'd just sit and chat and the girls we'd know would come over and we'd sit in the sun in the beer garden. That had a big impact on me and made drinking more social and took me away from the clubbing scene. I much prefer bitter, I avoid lager at all costs drinking only stout in Ireland and the only spirit I drink is gin & tonic.

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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 09:55 PM

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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 10:49 PM

i see nothing wrong with it let the kids have some fun..... a kid getting drunk isnt gonna cause the world to end are parents did it before us and there parents before them despite what they might say...
   
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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 10:58 PM

So because our parents made mistakes, that makes it okay? I say we learn from it and progress as a species.
   
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i see nothing wrong with it let the kids have some fun..... a kid getting drunk isnt gonna cause the world to end are parents did it before us and there parents before them despite what they might say...
According to 2008, 37% of all fatal crashes were alcohol related. Giving kids cocaine is probably not going to cause the world to end, and just because our older generations did it doesn't mean it's okay. After slavery was illegal, did the next generation of people be like "hey, my grandfather did it and my dad...so it's cool"

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why do you call it a mistake.... theress nothing wrong with alcohol unless your some moron who doesnt know his limits... its actually a great stress reliever i have used it as such and i get more relief from it then i have any pill...
   
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According to 2008, 37% of all fatal crashes were alcohol related. Giving kids cocaine is probably not going to cause the world to end, and just because our older generations did it doesn't mean it's okay. After slavery was illegal, did the next generation of people be like "hey, my grandfather did it and my dad...so it's cool"

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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 11:32 PM

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And I said that even a kid with cocaine isn't going to cause the world to end, but it will cause 37% of car fatalities! It's a pretty big statistic not to include. It is completely relevant to this topic.

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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 5th 2010, 11:55 PM

Except we're not talking about casual drinking. Hence the title 'binge drinking'.
   
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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 6th 2010, 12:17 AM

Drinking and binge drinking has been made so acceptable these days when it's not. Think of all the drinks advertisements you see. They are persuading young people to go out and get drunk. I'd like to think I don't binge drink, I occasionally have a drink but I know when to stop and don't drink accesive amounts. When I was younger I did binge drink a lot and I do think a lot of that was peer pressure. I was a mess back then and I didn't know when to stop.
If you see some of these drinks promotions, it's cheap to get drunk. I work in a bar and if there is something they need to clear stock wise they make it super cheap. You can buy some bottles of beer for a pound. Every week there's another bar near me that sells their pints for one pound or one pound fifty and for those prices young people can afford to get drunk. Working in a bar has made me see how bad alcohol can affect you. There are people that come in at 9am on the dot to begin drinking and that makes me feel physically sick. There are regulars that are in pretty much every day without fail, they buy cheap drinks to get drunk quickly. It quite frankly makes me feel sick and I'm not a big fan of alcohol anymore.
   
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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 6th 2010, 12:22 AM

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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 6th 2010, 12:28 AM

I think binge drinking is just pathetic.


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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 6th 2010, 12:36 AM

i don't see a problem unless people are drink driving, then it obviously is a serious problem. if they're not harming anyone else i don't see how it's any of anyone else's business. i mean i don't agree with smoking but if other people want to smoke i don't care. some people need to get off their high horse.


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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 6th 2010, 12:38 AM

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i don't see a problem unless people are drink driving, then it obviously is a serious problem. if they're not harming anyone else i don't see how it's any of anyone else's business. i mean i don't agree with smoking but if other people want to smoke i don't care. some people need to get off their high horse.
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Re: Young people binge drinking. - October 6th 2010, 01:30 AM

Eh, if people are going to do something stupid then they should ingest marijuana. At least a person can't overdose on marijuana.

It's sad, but I can't relate. I don't drink but my boyfriend was addicted to alcohol due to not having pain medication because his mom was concerned he would become addicted to pain meds.
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