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Mean Trainers Make Mean Dogs - February 20th 2009, 03:13 AM

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(Newser) – Dog owners who try to tame their pets by acting aggressive themselves will only make matters worse, LiveScience reports. A new study in Applied Animal Behavior Science presents sobering news for advocates of tough love. Those who hit, kick, growl at, or confront their dogs in similar ways are more likely to have pets that act in kind. Instead of raising their hand, owners should try offering more exercise, or maybe a treat, when training.
“This study highlights the risk of dominance-based training, which has been made popular by TV, books, and punishment-based training advocates,” said the lead author of the study. “These techniques are fear-eliciting and may lead to owner-directed aggression.”
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I honestly think this is a waste of a study. To me, this seems to be common sense. If you are mean to your dog, he will be mean back. You hit me, I'll be liable to hit you.


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Re: Mean Trainers Make Mean Dogs - February 20th 2009, 03:42 AM

Hahaha. I hope no money was spent on that study because it's so pointless! I could have told you that and I don't really train dogs..


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Re: Mean Trainers Make Mean Dogs - February 20th 2009, 04:08 AM

Isn't this similar to humans? Children that were abused are more likely to be violent? You'd think people would realize this... why would hurting your dog help anything? Sometimes you need to lightly tap your dog to get his/her attention, but not to inflict pain. There's a difference.
   
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Re: Mean Trainers Make Mean Dogs - February 20th 2009, 06:44 AM

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I honestly think this is a waste of a study. To me, this seems to be common sense. If you are mean to your dog, he will be mean back. You hit me, I'll be liable to hit you.
Well, the common sense now has some proof to show it's true. In science, you cant simply say something is true or false by reason of common sense. Granted, I'd have thought there was plenty of experiments and such done already on this, cases of killers or violent criminals for their childhoods, etc... . Although I must agree, I do hope not a lot of money went to this.

BrittneyNicole: But what scientific proof would have you had to tell me? Unless you looked online or in journals, you have none. This way you have something. But, once again, even though it may be common sense, that's not proof nor causation for science.
   
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Re: Mean Trainers Make Mean Dogs - February 20th 2009, 03:05 PM

Duh?

I suppose the stupidity that's running rampant in our society needs to be reminded of such things as this, but still... they needed a study to know this?


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Re: Mean Trainers Make Mean Dogs - February 21st 2009, 06:17 AM

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Duh?

I suppose the stupidity that's running rampant in our society needs to be reminded of such things as this, but still... they needed a study to know this?
I'm sure other studies were done in the past on it. Why they chose to do this study again is beyond me, as there is scientific literature on it already that is fairly recent.
   
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Re: Mean Trainers Make Mean Dogs - February 21st 2009, 06:27 AM

People do studies on obvious things all of the time.

I've heard reports of people feeding dogs broken glass to make them mean. It's so sad.



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