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Solitary Confinement - December 16th 2010, 12:26 AM

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...a_fact_gawande

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I'm idly considering a bit of experiment; I'm curious as to what spending a week or two of complete isolation like that feels like.


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Re: Solitary Confinement - December 16th 2010, 12:50 AM

I got trapped in a small bathroom once for 2 hours. All the confinement I'll ever ask for, thanks. Haha.

Honestly solitary confinement is psychological torture for sure. Watch prison documentaries, inmates shudder when they talk about the "hole."


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Re: Solitary Confinement - December 16th 2010, 01:04 AM

Its amazing how pro-punishment and anti-rehabilitation prisons are. We are supposed to be "correcting" our prisoners so they are able to function as productive members of society. Instead we are focusing more on punishment, making them less suitable to be in the real world, and tossing them back out in worse shape then when they arrived. And to think methods proven to be more effective have been presented and yet we still insist on isolation. I honestly had no idea isolation had that kind of effect, and that prisoners were in for years at a time.


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Re: Solitary Confinement - December 16th 2010, 03:48 PM

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Its amazing how pro-punishment and anti-rehabilitation prisons are. We are supposed to be "correcting" our prisoners so they are able to function as productive members of society. Instead we are focusing more on punishment, making them less suitable to be in the real world, and tossing them back out in worse shape then when they arrived. And to think methods proven to be more effective have been presented and yet we still insist on isolation. I honestly had no idea isolation had that kind of effect, and that prisoners were in for years at a time.
Pretty much this. Our 'justice' system here has far more 'punishment' facilities than 'correctional' facilities, despite the nomenclature.

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Re: Solitary Confinement - December 16th 2010, 07:01 PM

I'd actually go insane. I always have to have something to do. I know the whole "I'm bored" thing sounds ridiculous, but I go absolutely insane if I have nothing to do. Worse, left in a cold dark room on my own probably in a straight jacket.... I'd try and find a way to end it.
   
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Re: Solitary Confinement - December 16th 2010, 11:42 PM

As someone who spends a lot of time alone, there get to be points when I need to interact with other people, like last spring when my roommate moved out and I was living alone. I freaked out after a few weeks, and it turned bad. Solitary confinement is bad, it's torturous, and to think that they also use it at some mental hospitals to help people -_- It doesn't help, it creates more problems. I mean, I can see spending a day in confinement for fighting or something, but weeks/months/years? Hell no.


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Re: Solitary Confinement - December 17th 2010, 12:36 AM

I would love to see if I can handle been a week in solitary confinement just for the sake of it. I honestly don’t think I could make it but it would be a fun experiment.


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Re: Solitary Confinement - December 17th 2010, 03:31 AM

Interesting read, thanks for sharing.


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Re: Solitary Confinement - December 17th 2010, 03:40 AM

I've always thought it be interesting to go through torture/interrogation (though only the physically safe kinds ). I'm curious how long I could take the isolation, sensory overload, uncomfortable positions, cold, loud music, etc.


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Re: Solitary Confinement - December 17th 2010, 07:48 PM

Ech, I dunno, I wouldn't, I mean, it's an interesting thing, but gah, it'd be horrifying really =/.




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Re: Solitary Confinement - December 18th 2010, 06:21 AM

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I would love to see if I can handle been a week in solitary confinement just for the sake of it. I honestly don’t think I could make it but it would be a fun experiment.
I feel the same way about a lot of the more subtle ways to mess around with a mind; I'd like to see how mine would stand up to it. If I end up going through with this I'll let you know how it goes.


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Re: Solitary Confinement - December 18th 2010, 09:33 AM

The utter boredom would drive me insane. I spend a lot of time alone and even when I have my phone to communicate with people, I'm still incredibly lonely. It's the worst feeling in the world. And it would only worsen my depression. Nope, I'd never try it.
   
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Re: Solitary Confinement - December 18th 2010, 01:58 PM

Interesting reading, and I think this covers what I was going to say pretty well:

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Does make you wonder when we're going to realise that locking someone in a small room and then releasing them after a time is going to have very little effect in terms of improving their future prospects.

As for the volunteering for solitary question which also seems to have arisen, I think it would certainly give you a very telling insight into who you are deep down. Some people would find that appealing; others terrifying. I'd be willing to give it a try if nothing else...


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