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Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 16th 2011, 04:06 PM

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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 16th 2011, 04:10 PM

same with school kids wearing American flags and getting suspended. because Latino kids find it disrespect..


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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 16th 2011, 04:43 PM

It's stupid really. But, I understand where the hotel is coming from. It clearly stated in their handbooks that it couldn't be worn, and the man went against it. I hope he wins, don't get me wrong, since he deserves to wear whatever he would like. However, it was in the policy.











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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 16th 2011, 04:50 PM

He got what he deserved. He wore the pin despite it being against company policy and he deserves to suffer the consequences. He is not a special case, and just because it's the american flag shouldn't make it a special case. He broke company policy, it's no different than if he wore a Westborro Baptist Church pin.

He signed contracts to work there, and agreed to policy. He screwed up. If your school said "No green hair" and then you show up with bright green hair and refuse to wash the color out, so they suspend you, how is this unfair?

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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 16th 2011, 05:29 PM

If it's against the rules to wear a pin then they deserve the punishment, regardless of what's on the pin (except maybe special occasions).
   
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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 16th 2011, 07:32 PM

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same with school kids wearing American flags and getting suspended. because Latino kids find it disrespect..
Fuck political correctness.

Perhaps he shouldn't have worn it, because it's against company policy, but what kind of facking company supports this kind of shit in the first place? I wouldn't stay in that hotel. I'd rather camp out with alligators.

And if anyone finds the American flag offensive, or the British flag, or Russian or Chinese, they should go shoot themselves for being born a total idiot.


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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 16th 2011, 09:27 PM

BDF: Well said. The flag shouldn't be offensive, but wearing it was against the rules.

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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 16th 2011, 10:25 PM

Regardless of how I feel about the policy, I really don't have any sympathy for the guy. If you knowingly break your employer's rules, what do you expect to happen? If you think a rule is unfair, get the rule changed first, then do whatever it is you wanted. Otherwise you've no one to blame but yourself.


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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 16th 2011, 10:28 PM

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Fuck political correctness.

Perhaps he shouldn't have worn it, because it's against company policy, but what kind of facking company supports this kind of shit in the first place? I wouldn't stay in that hotel. I'd rather camp out with alligators.

And if anyone finds the American flag offensive, or the British flag, or Russian or Chinese, they should go shoot themselves for being born a total idiot.
While this crap does happen, (Muslim groups want to change Switzerland's flag because it has a cross), this is not a policy about banning the American flag because its offensive, otherwise they wouldn't have the flag flying in front of the place. A hotel wants their employees to look as professional as possible, and that means no personalization of their uniforms. If they allow an American flag, they have to allow other flags as well or else they're being 'discriminative'.
   
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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 16th 2011, 11:53 PM

There is obviously more to this story. Regardless of the content of the badge, it is ridiculous to fire someone over wearing a pin instead of just politely pointing out the employee handbook and asking said person to remove it. I very much doubt they walked into work, saw him wearing it and fired him straight away.

The fact that he felt so strongly about it that he went to the press kind of makes me think that he refused to take it off. If that is so, then what is on the pin couldn't matter less.


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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 17th 2011, 03:15 AM

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Fuck political correctness.

Perhaps he shouldn't have worn it, because it's against company policy, but what kind of facking company supports this kind of shit in the first place? I wouldn't stay in that hotel. I'd rather camp out with alligators.

And if anyone finds the American flag offensive, or the British flag, or Russian or Chinese, they should go shoot themselves for being born a total idiot.
Yet in america in schools you are told not to wear american flag memorabilia


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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 17th 2011, 03:23 AM

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There is obviously more to this story. Regardless of the content of the badge, it is ridiculous to fire someone over wearing a pin instead of just politely pointing out the employee handbook and asking said person to remove it. I very much doubt they walked into work, saw him wearing it and fired him straight away.

The fact that he felt so strongly about it that he went to the press kind of makes me think that he refused to take it off. If that is so, then what is on the pin couldn't matter less.
Did you read the article? It said he was asked to remove the pin or go home. He idiotically choose the wrong choice and walked out. He was then fired.

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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 17th 2011, 06:27 AM

I have no sympathy for the guy at all. He was warned of company policy, told the reasoning behind it and was told what would happen if he didn't comply. He chose not to comply, got fired and is now crying about it hoping to change the policy. He's only got himself to blame.

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Perhaps he shouldn't have worn it, because it's against company policy, but what kind of facking company supports this kind of shit in the first place? I wouldn't stay in that hotel. I'd rather camp out with alligators.

And if anyone finds the American flag offensive, or the British flag, or Russian or Chinese, they should go shoot themselves for being born a total idiot.


You've got tunnel vision by suggesting the company is some big evil organization that finds the US flag offensive so they seek to prevent it from being worn. Bullshit. If the story were changed to the employee being fired because he wore a dolphin pin because he loves dolphins, you wouldn't give a skewed political insight since it's not relevant. That's the exact same thing here.

I agree with you though that if someone finds a country's flag offensive, they're a total idiot and can tackle a speeding 18-wheeler for all I care.

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Regardless of the content of the badge, it is ridiculous to fire someone over wearing a pin instead of just politely pointing out the employee handbook and asking said person to remove it. I very much doubt they walked into work, saw him wearing it and fired him straight away.
What is ridiculous is the fact you haven't read the story and are basing your comments on fuck knows what, otherwise you look like a fool. If you took the time to read the very short article, you would have noticed the following two sentences in the quote below. That wasn't so difficult, now was it?

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Sean May told reporters Friday that his manager ordered him to remove his lapel pin or go home. May, a 26-year-old front desk supervisor, went home. He says he plans to fight the policy.


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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 17th 2011, 09:12 AM

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You've got tunnel vision by suggesting the company is some big evil organization that finds the US flag offensive so they seek to prevent it from being worn. Bullshit. If the story were changed to the employee being fired because he wore a dolphin pin because he loves dolphins, you wouldn't give a skewed political insight since it's not relevant. That's the exact same thing here.
I never said or suggested that lol. Certain companies in are known to set up facked up policies like this, so they appeal to a wider customer base of ethnic minorities who otherwise find shit like national flags offensive, or even "Happy Christmas" written on cards offensive.

I probably didn't come across clearly. Didn't mean to suggest that the company itself finds it offensive. I'm probably getting trigger happy with throwing these accusations around, but I get real annoyed with this shit joke called political correctness.


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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 18th 2011, 03:31 AM

Sucks for him but the handbook says:
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/flor...ican-flag-pin/

It's not about the flag he could of had a Mexican flag but in the end of the day it will still violate the dress code.


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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 18th 2011, 06:45 AM

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Sucks for him but the handbook says:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/flor...ican-flag-pin/

It's not about the flag he could of had a Mexican flag but in the end of the day it will still violate the dress code.
I agree.

It would certainly be different if he was in trouble for wearing an American Flag pin, he was simply in trouble for wearing a pin, irrelevant of what it represented. Also, in my opinion, work dress codes should be allowed to be more strict, as you choose to work at a company, while yo are required to attend a school.
   
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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 18th 2011, 12:14 PM

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There is obviously more to this story. Regardless of the content of the badge, it is ridiculous to fire someone over wearing a pin instead of just politely pointing out the employee handbook and asking said person to remove it. I very much doubt they walked into work, saw him wearing it and fired him straight away.

The fact that he felt so strongly about it that he went to the press kind of makes me think that he refused to take it off. If that is so, then what is on the pin couldn't matter less.
Hello,

Did you read the article?

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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 19th 2011, 02:56 AM

Um, not to jump in front of the firing squad here, but I think you guys misread Marguerite's post. The thread's title is "Fired for wearing American flag pin;" I read her post as saying that that is both a ridiculous scenario and not what happened.


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Re: Hotel Employee Fired For Wearing American Flag Pin - October 19th 2011, 09:00 AM

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Um, not to jump in front of the firing squad here, but I think you guys misread Marguerite's post. The thread's title is "Fired for wearing American flag pin;" I read her post as saying that that is both a ridiculous scenario and not what happened.


No we're pointing out she said this:

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I very much doubt they walked into work, saw him wearing it and fired him straight away.
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When the article says:

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Sean May told reporters Friday that his manager ordered him to remove his lapel pin or go home. May, a 26-year-old front desk supervisor, went home.
And he chose GO HOME. THEN he got fired.




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