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Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 7th 2011, 09:34 PM

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According to Republican Senates of Michigan State, bullying is okay as long as it is religiously or morally motivated.


The Republican-led Michigan Senate recently passed a new (supposedly) anti-bullying bill named "Matt's Safe School Law," inspired by the suicide of 14-year-old Matt Epling, a Michigan teen who ended his life after relentless anti-gay bullying.

Michigan was one of only three states in the US that had not enacted any form of anti-bullying legislation. This law is meant to end that.

However, it turns out to be more of a guide to bullying, than an anti-bullying law. According to the new bill, you can bully anyone as long as you can come up with a religious or moral excuse.

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The law, Mattís Safe School Law, named in memory of Matt Epling, who committed suicide in the wake of relentless anti-gay bullying, offers a loophole to those who want to bully gay students or anyone else they donít like. All they need to do, according to the newly passed legislation, is claim that their bullying was based on ďa sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction."

Seriously, how the hell did these guys got voted into office?

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Re: Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 7th 2011, 09:51 PM

Bullying is never okay, whatever the reason, nobody deserves to be bullied. And this is just silly. That just sounds like a free pass to go and bully anyone and everyone, its stupid, bullying is never okay, this sort of news makes me angry.



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Re: Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 8th 2011, 12:46 AM

   
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Re: Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 8th 2011, 12:53 AM

Wow I think this is one of the stupidest laws I have ever heard of. Its never right to bully. And they are better off not even making a laws about bullying if they are just going to promote it and make exceptions! And plus religious people are supposed to except people no matter what because only God has the right to judge, so this doesn't even make sense! Its just giving people who aren't even religious or say they "are" an excuse to bully. This really makes me mad!
   
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Re: Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 8th 2011, 01:31 AM

Stupid law, but at least it's only 2 loopholes.
If I believe something is morally wrong i'm going to say something to that person anyway.
The religion part is extra stupid ... religion shouldn't run schools.
   
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Re: Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 8th 2011, 03:32 PM

Douchebags in power. How dumb this is. I'm lost for words. Damn stupid close minded people, no... idiots.


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Re: Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 8th 2011, 05:47 PM

"I HAD to beat him up, teacher. I am morally convicted to punish idiots."

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Re: Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 8th 2011, 05:57 PM



"I don't care about politics"
Then politics doesn't care about you either. Truth. You've got to make your voice heard, if you want to be listened to. But that's too logical for some people, so let me go a step further. Not making your voice heard, leaves other people free to hijack it by speaking on your behalf, even if they don't actually give a shit about you. That's politics. So, make your voice heard. That's not a quote from anywhere. That's just me.


   
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Re: Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 8th 2011, 06:25 PM

I would facepalm at this, but given how many times I've done that this year I'm worried I'll end up doing myself some serious brain damage if I keep doing that...

Suffice it to say, this does not rebuild my faith in the American legal system one iota.


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Re: Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 8th 2011, 08:30 PM

Wow that is so stupid! I don't like the law at all. I hate to say this, but they are very stupid in Michigan, and I live in Michigan! I thought in the United States, religion was seperated from the state. So why would they even have a law that deals with some time of Religion? They don't really have a right to make a law like that, at least in my opinion.


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Re: Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 8th 2011, 09:16 PM

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Re: Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 11th 2011, 01:26 AM

They name a law after a kid who faced anti-gay bullying, only to add a loophole in which it allows people to bully based on religious beliefs or moral convictions. Religion was probably the reason the kid was bullied in the first place.


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Re: Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 11th 2011, 08:42 PM

I agree. Kids will still want to committ suicide because of the bullying. Anybody could make up a Religious excuse for their actions. Even if they aren't religious.


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Re: Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 11th 2011, 09:47 PM

I glanced over this and instantly went "Oh hell no."
And pardon my language, but I'm pretty sure this is what everyone is thinking right now.
In who's right fucking mind is it okay to bully someone? If you're religious and personally condemn the acts of homosexuality, then don't fucking do it, and don't condemn the people who do because it's not your place. If you don't like someone because their religion isn't the same, who fucking cares? Live YOUR life, and DON'T YOU DARE SAY IT'S YOUR PLACE TO TRY TO LIVE SOMEONE ELSE'S. In no fucking way is it ever okay to bully someone for any - god - damn - reason.

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Re: Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 19th 2011, 09:07 PM

this is why i hate the michigan government T_T theyre all assholes. and the saddest thing.. i wasnt even supprised to hear that my homestate government was acctualy stupid enough to do something like this


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Re: Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 19th 2011, 10:27 PM

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Re: Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 19th 2011, 11:33 PM

lol ok...

they're putting a bad name on republicans and americans in general.

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Re: Bullying is Okay As Long As It is Religiously or Morally Motivated, According to Michigan Republican Legislators - November 21st 2011, 07:42 PM

The Michigan Legislation sent the bill back because of that loophole. It failed.


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