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Science <3 - September 3rd 2015, 10:32 PM

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I just wanted to share some stuff, involving religion as well.
I grew up in a Christian school where I was bullied and brainwashed from the start. I know now that this school/church was more of a sect then believers, I don't want to go into details but they didn't exactly treat us children well.
I had it rough at home and even though I tried I couldn't believe in god, I thought that if what they were saying was true, if god created and love me then why would he put me through all this misery?
A few years later I "became" an atheist, I can't be more thankful for getting away from that school in the last minute. I respect religion (what I experienced was not that) but I take comfort in facts rather than beliefs.
Some things I can never read enough of is anatomy, psychology and evolution, I absolutely love reading research, how things work and how theories became facts. I think it's a comforting thought that humans don't know about the big questions, I don't think we're supposed to. I feel such relief that I can learn facts instead of forcing faith. I love that science is all around us, so real and so full of promises
Sorry, this was unfocused af, I'm pretty tired, but that's it
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Re: Science <3 - September 4th 2015, 02:00 AM

Hey Nina,

I agree with you. Science is amazing stuff. I studied science specifically in high school, and now I study Sociology in college. I love researching and finding out things about human beings. It's incredible stuff. It's a great feeling to have facts and not just beliefs.

There is no beauty without some strangeness.

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Re: Science <3 - September 4th 2015, 06:13 AM

I love science and I love religion(s), but I'll never understand the train of thought that science and facts are mutually exclusive from religion. I don't mean to go against your points about being happy with yourself, but I've always believed that God is the ultimate scientist that made all the scientific laws in the first place.
Its weird how the biggest idiots of any group are also the most vocal. There is literally a Senator in Georgia who says science is the work of the devil, and people like that seem to be the scapegoats when people bash religion, as though none of the rest of us believe in facts or science.

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Re: Science <3 - September 5th 2015, 12:33 PM

When I did my Physics iGCSE, it was amazing the way that the world opened to me. Many everyday things suddenly became interesting because I understood all the processes behind it. So I understand how you feel. Personally I'm not religious (Honourary Quaker! Buddhist but can't be bothered!) but I think religion can have very positive effects on people. I think it's comforting for people to know that there's a great being watching over them, I think it relieves some of their responsibility, but also makes them more responsible. That's my view anyway- though religion can also get warped to the desires of important people in the religion.
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Re: Science <3 - September 7th 2015, 10:30 PM

Hey Finley,

I like your observations. I came from a similar background, although with variances, of course. We're not all identical. However, I consider myself more of an agnostic, now.

As I began to pursue deeper in to Physics in my academics, I realized there is a lot of uncertainty, which is actually what lead me to be an agnostic. I know this is semi-illogical, that is, that uncertainty doesn't mean it won't ever be made certain. But, I've began to realize that existence itself is really a conundrum. We question why we're here, and we explain it with well-developed theories, and ideas. Or we resort to deity/deities. But, I've realized that all our ideas are rather irrational because of this idea of existence. That is, I have no authority to really say if god(s) exist because the idea of existence is what's irrational, not necessarily god(s). The reason I emphasize this is because if we conclude there is no god, we go back far enough through an infinite amount of events which created our Universe, or we arrive at something eternal.

Physics of the future will likely resolve the answer, likely not in our generation, but as of now I'm content to just say, "I don't know if there is a god, but he probably doesn't exist." Some classify this as weak-atheism, but I prefer the term agnostic. As I've began leaning towards more agnosticism, I have also become a sort of deist. Likely because the inability to completely shake my religious roots. I will say, however, I find most fundamentalist interpretations of religion (to my knowledge) are severely insufficient and can be very harmful to society. I tend to respect the more progressive standings on religion which typically don't take the "My Holy Book Said It, Therefore It's True," approach.

Anyways, I really enjoy philosophical and scientific discussions, and hope to see you around here more. By the way, what do you plan on doing with your life? You seem bright.

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