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Post Oh dear god - March 13th 2011, 10:09 AM

Im 15 and hve been raised in christanity all my life. My mom is a HUGE beliver. And when i was about 7 i was just like her.
But now, i really dont belive in any of that crap. Infact the even mention of "god is good" just boils my blood!
And when im at chruch, cuz my mom wanted me to go, i start arguing with the preacher as hes talking.
And since my brothers friend died, she has been begging me to "get right with god"
And i fell sad for her because she just wants what she thinks is best for me.
Whats wrong with me? Is this a faze?
   
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Re: Oh dear god - March 13th 2011, 10:28 AM

It might be, but a lot of people chose to walk away from religions and never look back. The important thing is to take the time to think critically about things yourself and come to your own conclusions, not those that others tell you are right.

If you have any questions about religion and/or atheism, I'd be happy to answer to the best of my ability.


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Re: Oh dear god - March 13th 2011, 03:06 PM

You're 15. It's probably a faze, but at the same time, you're probably trying to figure out what you believe, and what's right for you. Rather than simply believing whatever your parents want you to believe. When I was growing up, I was rather neutral to the things of God and didn't really believe in Him. Eventually, I just hated Christians because they were judgmental and forcing their beliefs on others. Over time, I became a Christian. Go figure.


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Re: Oh dear god - March 13th 2011, 06:38 PM

There are stages to faith.

1) You are born into the religion and don't have a choice to believe or not since you are small.
2) You pretty much do what your parents do because you have to.
3) You stop believing. God doesn't exist, Jesus isn't real, and the bible is all lies.
4) Some event caused you to believe that you have to believe in something. This brings you back closer to God
5) Live and breath with God, live on the gospel, live on the Word.

You are in stage 3 I think. You'll get out of it... Pretty sure it's just a stage since you are 15. I was there last year, but I found my faith.


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Re: Oh dear god - March 13th 2011, 07:02 PM

I don't think there are stages to how God calls His elect. I didn't really follow those stages.


"Daniel broke the kings decree, Peter stepped from the ship to the sea, there was hope for Job like a cut down tree... I hope that there's such hope for me... Blind as I've become, I used to wonder where you were. These days I can't find where You're not. Mine's been a yard carefully surface tended, foxes burrowed underground. Gardening so highly self-recommended, what could I have done but let You down? The sun and the moon, I want to see both worlds as one." -Aaron Weiss, mewithoutYou
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Re: Oh dear god - March 13th 2011, 09:04 PM

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Im 15 and hve been raised in christanity all my life. My mom is a HUGE beliver. And when i was about 7 i was just like her.
But now, i really dont belive in any of that crap. Infact the even mention of "god is good" just boils my blood!
And when im at chruch, cuz my mom wanted me to go, i start arguing with the preacher as hes talking.
And since my brothers friend died, she has been begging me to "get right with god"
And i fell sad for her because she just wants what she thinks is best for me.
Whats wrong with me? Is this a faze?
Only you know what is right for you. Perhaps Christianity and Catholicism are not right for you. Study all kinds of Religions and Philosophies, and I know you will find one. We all have to do what calls to us.


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Re: Oh dear god - March 27th 2011, 05:59 PM

This is the time in your life when you're figuring out what you believe, and developing your own values. It's a personal journey, nobody else can say what you'll come to believe. Questioning is healthy. Learn as much as you can, pray for guidance if you are so inclined, and just be open. I left the church for a while to figure everything out, but eventually came back. When you know, you know, and you'll feel whatever faith or lack of faith in your heart.
   
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Re: Oh dear god - March 27th 2011, 06:24 PM

Although many believers are born into their beliefs, they usually go through phases like this where they evaluate their beliefs more critically, trying to find reason rather than blind faith. I think it is absolutely natural and necessary. As for me, I'm a Catholic by birth and I've gone through a similar phase as you & I've come up with the conclusion that Catholism is what I believe. My older brother - also baptized & confirmed as a kid - is an atheist now, and that's what works for him. My brother talked to my parents about it and they respect his choice. I think it might be nice if you could talk to your mother about your doubts. Share your feelings and confusions with her and ask her if she has similar experiences. Remember, whether you believe or not doesn't make you any better or worse as a person. Best of luck with you (:
   
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Re: Oh dear god - March 27th 2011, 06:34 PM

I think your age is a huge factor in this. At 15, most people try to become more independent and less reliant on their parents to do everything for them. You were born into a religious family, therefore there wasn't really a choice for you, as children always emulate their parents. Unfortunately what happens in a lot of cases is the parents continuously push religion on their children and don't allow them to form their own opinions. It's all irrelevant anyways, we'll all end up in the same place so I wouldn't stress about. Religion is very much a take it or leave it subject. If you want religion in your life, read up on your options if you don't, read up on other options. Either way just live your life and try to focus on the important things such as being a good person, being honest and respectful and kind and you'll go a long way regardless of religion
   
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Re: Oh dear god - March 28th 2011, 05:41 AM

It can be as everyone said, a possible phase given your age, however, you may come to disagree with religion and there's nothing wrong with that. If you don't care for religion, there's no reason to go to church, however, ideally you should study it first. I say this not to convince you to go back to Christianity, I myself have hatred for such a delusion. The reason I say to study it is so you know what you're not believing in, that is, you need to know enough of it to oppose it. Without such knowledge, it's blind faith, only it's against not for the religion.

You don't have a great time at church and arguing with the priest probably ruins some of the experience for others, so if you want to argue with him, do it afterward. If you've already told your mother you don't want to go to church because you don't have faith in it, then simply stay put at home, so she'll have to physically drag you out if she's that content. For myself, my family wasn't very religious but they would go to church on holidays, such as Easter, Christmas, etc... . Sometimes they'd go on other days if they felt that terrible and I had no desire to go on any day. At first I decided to go but ensured I wore clothing that was unclean and had "inappopriate" displays on it. I told my parents I'll go but I'm wearing this or I change clothing and stay at home. The next time, my father was going on about something regarding the cross and I had a cross nailed on my wall. I tore it down and set it on fire, which he immediately protested so I put it out and threw it outside next to the trash. He brought it back inside and I'm not sure where it is now, perhaps he did dump it. I did the same to the bible I got although tore out a bunch of pages so even if he wanted to keep it, he couldn't read all of it and I gladly threw it in the trash.

I'm not saying you have to do anything to that extent because parents don't quite like it and considering yours are so deluded into religion, you'd probably get much worse reactions than I got. Point is, you have no reason to go but if your mother insists, tell her you'll wait in the car or simply sit at the very back of the church or near the entrance.

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There are stages to faith.

1) You are born into the religion and don't have a choice to believe or not since you are small.
2) You pretty much do what your parents do because you have to.
3) You stop believing. God doesn't exist, Jesus isn't real, and the bible is all lies.
4) Some event caused you to believe that you have to believe in something. This brings you back closer to God
5) Live and breath with God, live on the gospel, live on the Word.

You are in stage 3 I think. You'll get out of it... Pretty sure it's just a stage since you are 15. I was there last year, but I found my faith.
LOL, what the fuck is this? If you're suggesting those 5 stages occur in all people, you're peddling horseshit and the only use for horseshit is it makes grass grow green. Why would the OP "get out of it" because she's 15? Is there a source to cite for these stages or are you just making up your own random junk and attempting to apply it to people because for nonsense reasons, you think this is "correct"?

I'm going to assume you followed these 5 stages (only reason I can see for why you state them), and if that is the case, not everyone is an identical copy of your mindset in wanting to believe in god. I have no desire to believe in god but I do believe in something already: I believe I make my own path and I analyze situations in detail. I do study a bit in theistic Satanism because I find it interesting although I don't practice it.


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Re: Oh dear god - March 28th 2011, 10:48 AM

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There are stages to faith.

1) You are born into the religion and don't have a choice to believe or not since you are small.
2) You pretty much do what your parents do because you have to.
3) You stop believing. God doesn't exist, Jesus isn't real, and the bible is all lies.
4) Some event caused you to believe that you have to believe in something. This brings you back closer to God
5) Live and breath with God, live on the gospel, live on the Word.

You are in stage 3 I think. You'll get out of it... Pretty sure it's just a stage since you are 15. I was there last year, but I found my faith.
That is incredibly patronising of you, may I just say.


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