The new school pledge of allegiance

[IAmMyself]

First off, I do not take credit for this. I just received this in an e-mail and had to post it here, because of how awesome it is.
Secondly, I couldn't decide whether to post this in the religion and spirituality section or the self expression section, so if it's in the wrong place please move it

Since the Pledge of Allegiance

And

The Lord's Prayer

Are not allowed in most

Public schools anymore

Because the word 'God' is mentioned.....

A kid in Arizona wrote the attached

NEW School prayer:



"New Pledge of Allegiance"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Now I sit me down in school

Where praying is against the rule

For this great nation under God

Finds mention of Him very odd.


If scripture now the class recites,

It violates the Bill of Rights.

And anytime my head I bow

Becomes a Federal matter now.



Our hair can be purple, orange or green,

That's no offense; it's a freedom scene...

The law is specific, the law is precise.

Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.


For praying in a public hall

Might offend someone with no faith at all..

In silence alone we must meditate,

God's name is prohibited by the state.


We're allowed to cuss and dress like freaks,

And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks...

They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible.

To quote the Good Book makes me liable.

We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,

And the 'unwed daddy,' our Senior King.

It's 'inappropriate' to teach right from wrong,

We're taught that such 'judgments' do not belong..


We can get our condoms and birth controls,
Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles..

But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
No word of God must reach this crowd.


It's scary here I must confess,

When chaos reigns the school's a mess.

So, Lord, this silent plea I make:

Should I be shot; My soul please take!

Amen



If you aren't ashamed to do this, Please pass this on..

Jesus said, 'If you are ashamed of me, I will be ashamed of you before my Father.'

[Acheron]

If I rolled my eyes any harder, they'd probably fall out.

[Sythan]

This "Pledge of Allegiance" in and of itself is absolutely ridiculous. Apparently, according to this little...whatever it's called, it's bad to learn about condoms and proper sexual protection, it's wrong for people to explore religions other than Christianity, and having sex before marriage is wrong.

You are allowed to have your religion, wear religious jewlery to school, the only thing you can't do is preach about it. Is that really so hard?

Maybe he's expiriencing such discrimination becuase people are tired of hearing about how they'll go to Hell unless they accept Jesus.

[~Mr. Self Destruct~]

What cretinous shit.
The "individuality" this student brings to mention applies to an acceptance of diversity, something of which secularism promotes.
Obviously this "author" has no regard for people that don't follow the same religion as they do.
This thread realy has given me an insight into the epitome of stupidity.

[Anthropomorphic]

There's nothing wrong with a student or teacher praying in a public classroom. However, having a student or teacher lead a class-wide prayer or strongly encourage/demand other students to participate is illegal. Even though the United States is a Christian majority, it also has freedom of religion that extend to preventing the government (public schools included) from promoting any given religious leaning.

Most of that "poem" is complete and utter rubbish. "Right" and "wrong" are excruciatingly subjective; therefore, even with a religious definition placed upon them they're still liable to be up to interpretation and argument among people who have a general consensus on faith. Furthermore, mention of "witchcraft" and "totem poles" raises some questions about promotion of bigotry and self-assigned superiority in the words of the author.

As for the real U.S. Pledge of Allegiance, it's still a legal mandate here for it to be said out loud for the entire school at the beginning of every school day. I hate to sound so starkly unpatriotic, but doing that in a public school is unconstitutional in itself, because the words "Under God" may suggest promotion of a single given faith by the government.

I could pick it apart piece by piece if I wanted to, but it's 2:15 in the morning and I'm just too damn tired right now.

[IAmMyself]

Originally Posted by Sythan

This "Pledge of Allegiance" in and of itself is absolutely ridiculous. Apparently, according to this little...whatever it's called, it's bad to learn about condoms and proper sexual protection, it's wrong for people to explore religions other than Christianity, and having sex before marriage is wrong.

You are allowed to have your religion, wear religious jewlery to school, the only thing you can't do is preach about it. Is that really so hard?

Maybe he's expiriencing such discrimination becuase people are tired of hearing about how they'll go to Hell unless they accept Jesus.

First off, this little... whatever you feel like calling it doesn't imply that it's bad to learn about proper sexual protection, that it's wrong to explore other religions besides Christianity, or that having sex before marriage is wrong. The person who wrote this is simply saying that since all of these things are so openly allowed in his school, why the fuck can't he express his religious beliefs in the way that he feels is correct? If you have a fucking problem with the thread then don't reply to it. I didn't post this here for atheist or agnostic assholes to ridicule and tear apart a perfectly fine poem about a kid that want the same right to express his belief in his god that every other fucking person is given. Also, not every person that considers themself a christian gets up in people's faces and tells them that they're going to go to hell if they don't get saved. Some people just try to coexist with the rest of the world and not make problems for other people. Unlike most of the people who replied to this thread. Now, since you all probably don't like me just because I posted this in the section that's supposed to be about religion and spirituality I guess I'll leave this website. Have a nice fucking life, jerkovs'.

EDIT: lol I'm not leaving the site cause of thiss... I was just pissed.

[Jocelyn.]

I think I hear a train coming....

[Marguerite]

Originally Posted by IAmMyself

First off, this little... whatever you feel like calling it doesn't imply that it's bad to learn about proper sexual protection, that it's wrong to explore other religions besides Christianity, or that having sex before marriage is wrong. The person who wrote this is simply saying that since all of these things are so openly allowed in his school, why the fuck can't he express his religious beliefs in the way that he feels is correct? If you have a fucking problem with the thread then don't reply to it. I didn't post this here for atheist or agnostic assholes to ridicule and tear apart a perfectly fine poem about a kid that want the same right to express his belief in his god that every other fucking person is given. Also, not every person that considers themself a christian gets up in people's faces and tells them that they're going to go to hell if they don't get saved. Some people just try to coexist with the rest of the world and not make problems for other people. Unlike most of the people who replied to this thread. Now, since you all probably don't like me just because I posted this in the section that's supposed to be about religion and spirituality I guess I'll leave this website. Have a nice fucking life, jerkovs'.

EDIT: lol I'm not leaving the site cause of thiss... I was just pissed.

Everyone tells it like it is in this section. You should go over to self expression because you should see the mutual masturbation that goes on over there. You could literally bang your head on the keyboard for two hours and people will tell you it's fantastic. Save yourself the aneurysm buddy and hop on over.

[Cosmo]

Originally Posted by Marguerite

Everyone tells it like it is in this section. You should go over to self expression because you should see the mutual masturbation that goes on over there. You could literally bang your head on the keyboard for two hours and people will tell you it's fantastic. Save yourself the aneurysm buddy and hop on over.

Oh my god, from that post and the one on Pedophilia Gene, I love you!! LOL xD It's true though, it's a massive circlejerk for the most part.

[Sythan]

Originally Posted by IAmMyself

First off, this little... whatever you feel like calling it doesn't imply that it's bad to learn about proper sexual protection, that it's wrong to explore other religions besides Christianity, or that having sex before marriage is wrong. The person who wrote this is simply saying that since all of these things are so openly allowed in his school, why the fuck can't he express his religious beliefs in the way that he feels is correct? If you have a fucking problem with the thread then don't reply to it. I didn't post this here for atheist or agnostic assholes to ridicule and tear apart a perfectly fine poem about a kid that want the same right to express his belief in his god that every other fucking person is given. Also, not every person that considers themself a christian gets up in people's faces and tells them that they're going to go to hell if they don't get saved. Some people just try to coexist with the rest of the world and not make problems for other people. Unlike most of the people who replied to this thread. Now, since you all probably don't like me just because I posted this in the section that's supposed to be about religion and spirituality I guess I'll leave this website. Have a nice fucking life, jerkovs'.

EDIT: lol I'm not leaving the site cause of thiss... I was just pissed.

The entire passage is implying those things are wrong, Witchcraft, vampires, condoms, sex. He's implying that the only thing morally right is Christianity and the Bible, are you that blind you can't see it?

I'm not Atheist or Agnostic, I'm NeoPagan. It's my right to voice my opinion in any thread that's posted on this site, given I don't violate the rules, which I haven't.

You can have your beliefs all you want, not everyone is going to agree with you, it's my right to express criticism wherever I damn where feel like it. Don't like? Tough luck.

[~Mr. Self Destruct~]

Originally Posted by Marguerite

Everyone tells it like it is in this section. You should go over to self expression because you should see the mutual masturbation that goes on over there. You could literally bang your head on the keyboard for two hours and people will tell you it's fantastic. Save yourself the aneurysm buddy and hop on over.

You are one of my new favourite people Marguerite.

[Xujhan]

I'm amazed this kind of thing is still going on. Even the goddmn bible tells Christians to shut up and not pray in public.

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." Matthew 6:5-6

How can you argue with that?

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[Cosmo]

Originally Posted by Xujhan

I'm amazed this kind of thing is still going on. Even the goddmn bible tells Christians to shut up and not pray in public.

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." Matthew 6:5-6

How can you argue with that?

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Matthew, huh? Sounds like a cool dude.

[Eldora]

On the subject of that little poem up there, I say this: Curse you, dumbass idiot you wrote the damn thing. I wear black for the most part, I have blue in my hair, I dream of having my lip pierced and tattoos on my back, I'm bi, and I'm not a Christian. And I hold you liable, because you're an idiot for telling me I'm wrong to be the way I am, and accusing me and my people -- meaning everyone else out there who's not afraid to be different -- of being evil and cruel to your jerkface idiot friends who think they know everything.

Oh, yeah, and at least we have the good sense to use condoms and birth control. And the religion that worships totem poles is far older than the Christian religion. And witchcraft, from what I've read on it, is far older than either of them.

So.

I believe I've voiced my opinion on this, well enough. Oh, and Ball&Chain, your post made me laugh.

Originally Posted by Xujhan

I'm amazed this kind of thing is still going on. Even the goddmn bible tells Christians to shut up and not pray in public.

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." Matthew 6:5-6

How can you argue with that?

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And if I ever said amen to anything, it would be that.

[Kira-Kira]

my school says if you have something against the pledge of alligence dont say it but you must stand up to respect your country we arent allowed to make students say it just to stand up to repsect others for ex im the only one besides my teacher that says it idont know if its because ppl are shy to say it cuz no one else it but im not ashamed

[IAmMyself]

All of this argument is complete and utter bullshit. Sythan, I apologize to you for any insults I might have 'thrown' at you while I was rampaging. Also, I don't personally have a problem with most of the things that were in that damned poem in the first place. Eldora, I wear mostly black, have died my hair in the past, am a stoner, and apparently I'm very good at making an ass of myself for no apparent reason. So please, don't think that I'm pointing a finger at the people that fit into the categories that are mentioned in the horrible little thing that I posted. I didn't mean for any of this dumb shit to go down, nor did I intend to make everyone have reason to believe that I'm an unreasonable, self centered idiot that doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut. I apologize to those who are and have been offended by my stupidity and hope that you can all give me another chance instead of continuing with the idea that I'm a fucking dipshit. I made a mistake. I realized it, apologized, etc.... it's done with.

[Marguerite]

Originally Posted by IAmMyself

All of this argument is complete and utter bullshit. Sythan, I apologize to you for any insults I might have 'thrown' at you while I was rampaging. Also, I don't personally have a problem with most of the things that were in that damned poem in the first place. Eldora, I wear mostly black, have died my hair in the past, am a stoner, and apparently I'm very good at making an ass of myself for no apparent reason. So please, don't think that I'm pointing a finger at the people that fit into the categories that are mentioned in the horrible little thing that I posted. I didn't mean for any of this dumb shit to go down, nor did I intend to make everyone have reason to believe that I'm an unreasonable, self centered idiot that doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut. I apologize to those who are and have been offended by my stupidity and hope that you can all give me another chance instead of continuing with the idea that I'm a fucking dipshit. I made a mistake. I realized it, apologized, etc.... it's done with.

See, this is the reason why I told you to go to the self expression section. If you're going to post something in a section with a lot of religious debate, don't throw a hissy fit when everyone doesn't agree with you. No need to swear, no need to call people names, no need to call yourself names and pretend you did something awful (what a martyr!). Just take a deep breathe, preface all your future threads with 'PLEASE ONLY REPLY WITH THINGS I LIKE', go write a poem about crimson rivers and gtfo of here before you have a heart attack.

[Composure]

See, I like hypocrisy, but this takes the cake.

I think the student that wrote this is without two pieces of common sense to rub together. His freedom to write such an expression goes against everything he expresses.

[*Jen*]

I am closing this thread as requested by the original poster.