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The overpowering feeling. - August 8th 2011, 04:55 AM


you begin to get tingles.
you feel like your not controlling your body.
you fall to your knees, and cry out to God.

Who here has ever felt his overpowering love?


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Heres mine,
My Testimony;
I was in the fifth grade. Sunfest concert. Newsong playing. As they were playing, i just broke. I burst into tears and whispered in my dads ear; "Dad, will you go with me?" So we walked up to the alter, prayed, and i cried and cried. I was shaking, and the very second i burst, i felt new. I was a new person after that concert. I accepted Jesus Christ into my heart. It was the best decision of my life, and from that very day i've tried my best to live out a fullfilling life, basking in the things of the Lord, instead of the world. Of course i've failed beyond a thousand trillion times, but he forgives me, and not once has he pushed me away. Through my six years of knowing God, i've witnessed so many beautiful things, and my testimony is forever changing.



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(this thread is not for debate, i guess you can say its just for Christians, but if you have questions; i'm here to talk (: )



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Re: The overpowering feeling. - August 8th 2011, 10:34 PM

If you feel you cannot control your body, then you're not in control when you fall to your knees and scream. My point is that this sounds very much like possession, so how do you know you were/are not possessed? I know possession is associated with evil beings but I'm using a broader definition, so could you answer without making it a semantic debate?


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Re: The overpowering feeling. - August 8th 2011, 10:40 PM

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If you feel you cannot control your body, then you're not in control when you fall to your knees and scream. My point is that this sounds very much like possession, so how do you know you were/are not possessed? I know possession is associated with evil beings but I'm using a broader definition, so could you answer without making it a semantic debate?
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Re: The overpowering feeling. - August 9th 2011, 01:58 AM

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What definition are you using?
To me, possession is when a supernatural being or event exerts involuntary control on another being's (i.e. human) behaviour/bodily function without full consent from the being.


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Re: The overpowering feeling. - August 9th 2011, 04:29 AM

Its not possession, its just that moment in worship; when everything in your mind is gone. you feel free, like your chains are out of the way, and you no longer have any worries.

To me, i guess you can say.
Your body is taken over by a NEW YOU.
If that makes sense (:



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Re: The overpowering feeling. - August 9th 2011, 06:36 AM

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Its not possession, its just that moment in worship; when everything in your mind is gone. you feel free, like your chains are out of the way, and you no longer have any worries.
That's completely different from what you originally said. Having no worries, feeling rejuvenated and happy is different from, "you begin to get tingles. you feel like you're not controlling your body". In your first post, you alluded to you not controlling your body because being/presence is but now you've said something completely different because you're still in control of your body, you just feel better as a person.

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To me, i guess you can say.
Your body is taken over by a NEW YOU.
This is going back to the first post with your body being controlled. The only difference is now you've labelled the thing that controls your body as a "new you".

I'm respecting your wishes by not debating and challenging your points, so don't get that idea. Instead, I'm trying to get a more precise understanding but you're not giving consistent responses. You said it's not possession because it's a moment in worship, that much I understand.


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Re: The overpowering feeling. - August 9th 2011, 03:58 PM

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The Bible makes it clear that all of us are possessed. Either by the Holy Spirit, or by an evil spirit. For example, Ephesians 5:18 talks about being "filled" with the Holy Spirit. In Romans 8:15, Paul says that Christians have not received, or stayed, (in) a Spirit of fear, but one by which we cry (literally, screech -- like a child), "Abba! Father!" Again, Ephesians 2:2, Paul says to the Ephesians that there is a evil spirit working in ALL the children of disobedience. Thus, we either have the Holy Spirit, or we are filled with an evil Spirit. We are either children of God, or children of the devil (John 8:44).

However, in any case, I believe you are speaking of the type of possession where a man was cutting himself with rocks or ceasing (cff. Mark 5, Mark 9), etc. But, the translation here is not really speaking of demon possession, though the word is used. A demon in this instance is talking about a physical ailment. The Gospels were originally written to Jews, who believe that if you did something wrong, you were possessed by a demon. I.E. Blindness was considered to be caused of sin (see John 9). But this does not mean this is true, rather, it is what the Sadducees, Pharisees, and keepers of the law taught. All of which Christ showed the have an err in their theology and indoctrination. He even accused them of making people twice a child of hell. In fact, they even accused Christ of having a demon because they thought he was insane. Thus, it isn't necessarily they had a literal demon forcing them to cease, cut themselves, etc. Just that there was something, as we very well know, psychologically, physically, or whatever (depending on the person), wrong with them.

At any rate, I still think your question is semi-valid, as I do not deny that it could possibly be a demon possession, and I do not deny that demon possession could occur to cause harm to people, as Luke 9 may or may not indicate. However, we must bear with the context, that just because a publican says a spirit is ceasing him, does not mean that a spirit was actually possessing the boy. Rather, it is simply what the publican believed because that is what Judaism taught him.

Also, to refrain from debating in the thread, you can PM me or start a new thread (if you want).


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Re: The overpowering feeling. - August 9th 2011, 06:58 PM

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The Bible makes it clear that all of us are possessed. Either by the Holy Spirit, or by an evil spirit. For example, Ephesians 5:18 talks about being "filled" with the Holy Spirit. In Romans 8:15, Paul says that Christians have not received, or stayed, (in) a Spirit of fear, but one by which we cry (literally, screech -- like a child), "Abba! Father!" Again, Ephesians 2:2, Paul says to the Ephesians that there is a evil spirit working in ALL the children of disobedience. Thus, we either have the Holy Spirit, or we are filled with an evil Spirit. We are either children of God, or children of the devil (John 8:44).
I'm not trying to spark a debate, which is odd for me, I know. I'm simply trying to understand what the OP is talking about because she's given different descriptions. She also said it wasn't possession but you're stating it could be possession. I wasn't quite expecting this but this thread has come to show that the "overpowering feeling" is experienced in many different ways, no Christian thus far has said their experiences or rationale for the experiences are in agreement with the OP's. I find this interesting, as I'm sure you do.


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Re: The overpowering feeling. - August 9th 2011, 08:03 PM

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I'm not trying to spark a debate, which is odd for me, I know. I'm simply trying to understand what the OP is talking about because she's given different descriptions. She also said it wasn't possession but you're stating it could be possession. I wasn't quite expecting this but this thread has come to show that the "overpowering feeling" is experienced in many different ways, no Christian thus far has said their experiences or rationale for the experiences are in agreement with the OP's. I find this interesting, as I'm sure you do.
It is my personal belief that these "feelings," are just that: Feelings. Generally, music has a psychology to it, i.e. someone can cry listening to, "Free Fallin'". They may even have an "overpowering feeling." I'm not quick to say, as most Christians are, that ever positive emotional experience, conviction, feeling, etc. is from God. Rather, I believe there is a rationale for each one, but neither do I limit God by saying that ALL of these have a reason apart from God. Just that most do. And I'll refrain from going further so that I do not offend other's, or the OP.


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Re: The overpowering feeling. - August 10th 2011, 12:09 AM

I have never been overpowered by a supernatural being and made to fall upon my knees. That would scare the crap out of me.
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Re: The overpowering feeling. - August 10th 2011, 01:13 AM

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