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ouija board - September 7th 2011, 07:02 PM

Are Ouija boards genuine ?
My mum who is a very strict christian , warned me never to use one !! which makes me wonder ..
im very curious , ive been on Google looking up stories because its an interesting subject !
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Re: ouija board - September 7th 2011, 08:58 PM

No they're absolutely not genuine.

Essentially you'll see what you want to see. People's hands will tremble or they'll subconsciously or consciously move the glass.

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Re: ouija board - September 7th 2011, 10:27 PM

sleep over 8th grade were not sure if one or the other moved but gosh it was freakin scary but its not real really but it was fun




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Re: ouija board - September 7th 2011, 10:37 PM

You mom sounds like a really spite filled Christian who is terrified of being damned to hell in this case, because honestly forbiding someone from doing anything because it's not apart of your religion is quite strange. Religion is about finding which one is right for you.

Anyhow though, no ouija boards do not work. They're just a toy meant to scare middle schoolers. I mean is don't think the "Milton Bradely Company" could build something that could channel spirits. But that's just my opinion.

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Re: ouija board - September 7th 2011, 10:50 PM

Nope, Ouija boards do not work. xD
   
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Re: ouija board - September 7th 2011, 10:54 PM

one episode of a good show to answer this problem and to negate any claims, penn & teller: Bullshit! Season one episode 12.
   
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Re: ouija board - September 8th 2011, 03:32 AM

Wait! They're not real!? I thought I had an excellent conversation with Ceaser last weekend

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Re: ouija board - September 8th 2011, 03:44 AM

Ouija boards initially were child board games but eventually some paranoid Christians came along and took a shit all over it. Thanks to them and subsequent deluded Christians, they fear the ouija board despite never using it or ever examining it. You're not alone on this, many people on this site for one reason or another, also fear it. If you want to use one, buy one and play it with some friends, you'll see it's a harmless game and the paranoid-filled claims are bogus.


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Re: ouija board - September 8th 2011, 10:56 AM

I used an ouija board and I believe what I saw/felt. Feel free to PM me for my experience as people here would find me crazy if I wrote it here


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Re: ouija board - September 8th 2011, 08:11 PM

its funny my dad says its not real , even though hes a christian ,,maybe strict wasn't a good idea to use . But he says i shouldn't use one just in case...
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Re: ouija board - September 8th 2011, 08:25 PM

if done correctly, actually invoking spirits/energy, yes they can work. However no one know what/who will come through, which is the reason I have never personally used one. Who knows if a ghost of someone youve known and loved will come through or a demon. You are potentially opening a doorway for ANYTHING to come through. I would suggest to not use one unless you are willing to deal with the worst.


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Re: ouija board - September 8th 2011, 11:10 PM

you sound like my dad ... haha <3
but yeah you never know just in case it is real ,, i mean im a christian i dont wanna be dealing with that :// hehe thankyou


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Re: ouija board - September 8th 2011, 11:46 PM

I think they're quite scary, psychologically and supernaturally.

Supernaturally, if they are real, then that can be some pretty intense shit. The consensus here seems to be that they're not real, so believe what you will.

Psychologically though, even if they are not real but you believe they are, you could still hysterically imagine a poltergeist situation. All of a sudden after using a ouija board, you could start explaining simple things such as a breeze in your house as a ghost rather than an open window.

I've never used one but I'm certainly curious and am fascinated by them.
   
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Re: ouija board - September 9th 2011, 01:20 AM

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if done correctly, actually invoking spirits/energy, yes they can work. However no one know what/who will come through, which is the reason I have never personally used one. Who knows if a ghost of someone youve known and loved will come through or a demon. You are potentially opening a doorway for ANYTHING to come through. I would suggest to not use one unless you are willing to deal with the worst.
I would love to see any facts/findings/proof/studies you have to support this.
   
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Re: ouija board - September 9th 2011, 04:06 AM

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if done correctly, actually invoking spirits/energy, yes they can work. However no one know what/who will come through, which is the reason I have never personally used one. Who knows if a ghost of someone youve known and loved will come through or a demon. You are potentially opening a doorway for ANYTHING to come through. I would suggest to not use one unless you are willing to deal with the worst.
If you have never used one, how do you know they work in the way you say they do? Can you provide objective evidence supporting your claims?

Also, as you say, nobody knows what will come through. However, this means nothing may come through at all.


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Re: ouija board - September 9th 2011, 08:39 PM

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Psychologically though, even if they are not real but you believe they are, you could still hysterically imagine a poltergeist situation. All of a sudden after using a ouija board, you could start explaining simple things such as a breeze in your house as a ghost rather than an open window.

This is very true.

I'm not strictly Christian, but I wouldn't use one myself, although I'm curious. I'm pretty superstitious. I don't know anyone personally that's used one, but my aunt's friends did and apparently something happened involving the table moving across the door or something (??) and all of them have refused to speak about it since. I know a lot of you are saying it's bullshit, but I agree that you don't really know what you might be opening yourself up to.

I don't want to get into a deabte about it, that's just my opinion.


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Re: ouija board - September 9th 2011, 11:24 PM

I havent personally used one but friends of mine did at a party. we're are all, how would you say, magically inclined and can see/talk to ghosts and occasionally demons(thankfully i havent dealt with them much recently.) and some stuff did come through and it wasnt all good. I saw and felt it all even though i didnt do anything to the ouija board.
And I can only prove it as well as people can prove that ghosts/spirits exist. I just have my own personal experiences and others stories.


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Re: ouija board - September 10th 2011, 12:09 AM

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I havent personally used one but friends of mine did at a party.
Zero reliability to be very honest. "My friend" could be the craziest person in the world no offence intended. It is unsubstantial evidence.

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we're are all, how would you say, magically inclined and can see/talk to ghosts and occasionally demons(thankfully i havent dealt with them much recently.)
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and some stuff did come through and it wasnt all good. I saw and felt it all even though i didnt do anything to the ouija board.
A feeling is unreliable, a replacement for when people have no evidence or facts. Feelings are wrong.

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Why do you think it is is that people cannot prove these things? Only speak of experiences without supporting evidence.
   
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Re: ouija board - September 10th 2011, 12:13 AM

It's an interesting claim to make.

You either agree, or you call the person making the claim a liar. I would hate to outright label someone as a liar.

However, I would say that to identify yourself as "magically inclined" without further going into great detail is a foolish move on these forums where there are plenty of athiests and non-believers who will challenge you. I'm saying that, and I'm one of the more open minded people around here when it comes to spirits and the like.
   
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Re: ouija board - September 10th 2011, 03:13 AM

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I havent personally used one but friends of mine did at a party.
Your friend could be off their rocker so much they think they're in another galaxy filled with demons wearing lingerie and ghosts handing out KFC. Even if you were to describe whatever your friend told you, there's no reliability at all since it cannot be verified by any of us that any of it is true. Unless you can show it is reliable and valid, your friend's experiences are worthless on here.

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we're are all, how would you say, magically inclined and can see/talk to ghosts and occasionally demons(thankfully i havent dealt with them much recently.) and some stuff did come through and it wasnt all good. I saw and felt it all even though i didnt do anything to the ouija board.
How are you, "magically inclined"? When you say that, the first images that come to mind are wand-waving,spell-casting and running around in a cloak going "hocus pocus, allediosus" and making a sandwich appear. Perhaps it is a correct assumption or perhaps it's completely wrong, so could you clarify it. Also, many people identify themselves as "witches" or similar labels since they belong to religions, including Wicca. Does your magical inclination come from a religion or is it something you were born with?

I'm at a loss for your last sentence, when you say you experienced the demons. You already said through whatever magical stuff, you interact with ghosts and demons, and that you don't use an ouija board. So, how do you know the demons you experienced at that moment were indeed from the ouija board and not from your independent magical inclination? This of course begs the question, if you and your friends can do whatever wand-waving (or however your magical inclination works), why would you need an ouija board?

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And I can only prove it as well as people can prove that ghosts/spirits exist. I just have my own personal experiences and others stories.
There's no proof ghosts or spirits exist as the stories are usually unverifiable with very poor or no evidence, so you just admitted you have zero ability to provide any proof.


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Re: ouija board - September 10th 2011, 03:53 AM

my sisters into all that stuff i baught her one called the tree of life? she had some party with her friends on halloween they played they said they talked to some chick sara and all the computers in the house just turned on which scared the shit out of them lmao she hasnt touched it since but thats about all i know
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Re: ouija board - September 10th 2011, 04:21 AM

your kidding right? That shit wont do anything, youd be better off figuring out your life by playing mash.
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Re: ouija board - September 10th 2011, 06:17 AM

My experience has always been that those people most inclined to believe in things of this like are also those least aware of proper psyphology, human biases and rational fallacies. The human brain is a very powerful machine, but it has its weaknesses. If you want to understand a 'supernatual experience', that's often the best place to look.


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Re: ouija board - September 10th 2011, 07:19 AM

Here's what I think.

Do I actually think one of those stupid things can open a portal to hell or some shit? No.

Am I going to be the idiot who tries it out in an effort to prove it doesn't work, only to get stalked by shadow people for the rest of my life? FUCK no.

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Re: ouija board - September 10th 2011, 07:27 AM

i've seen the exorcist, man. i KNOW what it does.
   
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Re: ouija board - September 10th 2011, 04:51 PM

wow your comments are really interesting ! to be fair i think its like marmite ..
you either love it or hate it ahaa .. even though that makes no sense


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Re: ouija board - September 10th 2011, 05:45 PM

Well if it was marmite, that would assume that both opinions were equally valid. If you believe something is correct when it is incorrect, that opinion is invalid.


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Re: ouija board - September 11th 2011, 06:25 AM

My mom has told me to never use one because it's basically an opening for Demons who could get through. Of course that scared me so I'm never touching one .-.


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Re: ouija board - September 11th 2011, 06:25 AM

My mom has told me to never use one because it's basically an opening for Demons who could get through. Of course that scared me so I'm never touching one .-.


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Re: ouija board - September 11th 2011, 03:13 PM

I hunk it's a very interesting topic. I've used an ouija board (why is my iPod correcting that to "lions"?) twice in my life.
The first time it was a paper one my cousins and I made and my mum hit the roof when she found out. (She's catholic, I was 10, what so you expect?)
The second time was 2 years ago at a friend's house. There was a group of us and there were supposedly "9 dangerous demons in the room". Do I believe that? No. If there were, why were we not attacked? I don't have much belief in these things because it's too easy to fake, even if you don't mean to. They say that you have to touch the glass for it to move so the spirit can channel energy through you. So how come they can move other things on their own without you? People report doors being opened and things bein thrown across rooms. Surely that would take more energy than moving one small glass.
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Re: ouija board - September 11th 2011, 06:08 PM

I've done this twice. The first time, nothing happened. That was when we were at my house. Absolutely nothing. But the second time... Well I snuck out at 3:30 am and ran over to a friends house with it. And that was scary!! You can do it, but some places it'll work and some it won't. I now 100% believe in ghosts. They are real, but they aren't all out to harm you. We asked a couple questions like "are you a ghost?" "did you live here?" and "are you dangerous...' but nothing seemed threatening.


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Re: ouija board - September 12th 2011, 12:08 AM

I was born with the magic and ability to see and hear and feel ghosts and demons. And we didn't "need" the board, it was just a way to kind of get everyone to focus their energy on one thing.

And I was answering a question, don't attack me and call me and my friends crazy just because you don't believe in something. It's like asking for proof of a god/goddess or whatever. REALLY hard to get, so stop attacking me and calling the people I was with crazy.


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And I was answering a question, don't attack me and call me and my friends crazy just because you don't believe in something. It's like asking for proof of a god/goddess or whatever. REALLY hard to get, so stop attacking me and calling the people I was with crazy.
Agreed. The OP asked for experiences with the ouija board. Not for people to attack other's beliefs or experiences. There's no reason to call someone crazy for something they believe in. That's like calling a kid crazy for believing in Santa, or a Christian crazy for believing in God. We all have our own beliefs and experiences and if you don't believe them, move on and stop being judgemental.


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Re: ouija board - September 12th 2011, 12:57 AM

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Agreed. The OP asked for experiences with the ouija board. Not for people to attack other's beliefs or experiences. There's no reason to call someone crazy for something they believe in. That's like calling a kid crazy for believing in Santa, or a Christian crazy for believing in God. We all have our own beliefs and experiences and if you don't believe them, move on and stop being judgemental.

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Re: ouija board - September 12th 2011, 02:54 AM

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I was born with the magic and ability to see and hear and feel ghosts and demons. And we didn't "need" the board, it was just a way to kind of get everyone to focus their energy on one thing.
I'm still confused since you didn't participate in focusing your energy on the ouija board. Would it not be more effective to focus on something your friends and you all like or have no problems with, such as a rock, stone, puppy, etc...?

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There's no reason to call someone crazy for something they believe in. That's like calling a kid crazy for believing in Santa, or a Christian crazy for believing in God. We all have our own beliefs and experiences and if you don't believe them, move on and stop being judgemental.
Whether this is directed at me or not, I was asking questions and making comments to better understand what you were describing because it made no sense to me. Nobody has called the friends you were with crazy, I am aware which posts you're referring to and you should re-read them because they stated there is a possibility information from your friend can be totally unreliable. This point was emphasized by saying your friend MAY be off their rocker, none of us know. That is not the same as saying your friends are crazy and a far cry from saying you're crazy. Since the both of you failed to understand the example, I suppose it was not clearly illustrated or perhaps you quickly glanced over it and got enraged it said the word, "crazy".

You have to realize what you're talking about isn't well understood by people here, so at least I am going to question it. Regarding my posts, I never once attacked you online, if I did, the post would've been deleted pretty fast.


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Re: ouija board - September 12th 2011, 03:53 AM

While the ouija board was out there were 5 people in the room. 1 was me who was sitting away from it, 2 were friends of mine whos energy is extremely strong and another 2 who were new to it. The ouija board was brought out because the 2 new ones needed something to put their energy toward. trying to teach them to direct it a certain way to produce certain effects.


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Re: ouija board - September 12th 2011, 06:41 AM

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Agreed. The OP asked for experiences with the ouija board. Not for people to attack other's beliefs or experiences. There's no reason to call someone crazy for something they believe in. That's like calling a kid crazy for believing in Santa, or a Christian crazy for believing in God. We all have our own beliefs and experiences and if you don't believe them, move on and stop being judgemental.
I'd compare believing you're a wizard and that you can control ghosts directly to a child believing in Santa.


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Re: ouija board - September 12th 2011, 10:56 AM

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I'd compare believing you're a wizard and that you can control ghosts directly to a child believing in Santa.
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Re: ouija board - September 12th 2011, 06:00 PM

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While the ouija board was out there were 5 people in the room. 1 was me who was sitting away from it, 2 were friends of mine whos energy is extremely strong and another 2 who were new to it. The ouija board was brought out because the 2 new ones needed something to put their energy toward. trying to teach them to direct it a certain way to produce certain effects.
You're avoiding my question by re-stating what you said before, which was your friends and you collectively focus your energy on the same item. My question was wouldn't it make more sense to focus your energy on something none of you have an issue with, that way all 5 of you can come together? For example, a harmless pile of rocks or a ball would make everyone feel safe so you all could participate. OR, are there only certain items that can be used, one of which is the ouija board?


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Re: ouija board - September 12th 2011, 07:48 PM

It's just a toy-I had fun scaring the pants off my sister and family by moving the cursor doohickey!


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