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Angels Are Mathematical
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December 8th 2011, 05:36 AM
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Also you don't necessarily have to believe a religion teaches when learn what it is about, and I believe most Christians would agree with me here. "Love is the law, love under will."
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December 8th 2011, 02:55 PM
Okay, for starters, I'm sure you are not the only one who has ever questioned their faith. I am currently a complete believer in the Lord, but it took a lot of self discovery to get to that point.
Now, when I was questioning everything I started going to different religions' places of worship and learning what I could about all of the possibilities. From there I sat down and sorted out what I believed and what I thought was pure hokey. It all led me straight back to where I started, a firm believer in Jesus Christ. You aren't a bad Christian if you have questions, it simply means that you don't understand and that you need to find out who you are and what you believe before you devote yourself to any one religion. And if at the end you decide that you don't believe in God then that's okay. No one is going to shun you for that. If I can be of any more help please feel free to shoot me a personal message and we can talk about it. |
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December 8th 2011, 03:26 PM
Despite what some Christians may want you to believe, leaving Christianity is not all that bad, if Christianity (And all it's differnet branches) do nothing for you, maybe a different religion will.
The best I can reccomend right now is to first: Look into other branches of Christainity. And Two: If that fails look into other religion. Maybe Christainity is not your thing, but that's your choice. Another thing to realize is no one completely agrees with all aspects of any religion. There will always be things that we don't like, or don't believe. That is also fine, do no quesiton yourself for formulating your own opinions. - Justin ![]() |
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December 8th 2011, 09:18 PM
Try not to judge what you don't understand. How can you claim to believe what Christians believe, or claim not to believe in the G-d of the Bible, if you don't even know what the Bible says beyond hearsay?
Even so, I do not know that I believe in the G-d most Christians believe in. Why? Because the G-d I see in the Bible is not anything Christians teach. So, I believe in the G-d of the Bible. But not of the Church. Is your G-D really G-D?
Is my G-D really G-D? I think our G-D isn't G-D, if He fits inside our head. |
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December 8th 2011, 09:35 PM
"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."
Faith, or the lack thereof, should not be a burden to you. If you wish to believe, then believe. If you don't, then don't. There's no important difference between a Christian, a Muislim, a Jew, a Hindu, a Buddhist, or an atheist. It's your actions that matter, and those aren't contingent upon your beliefs. If you don't know what you want to believe, then educate yourself; there are hundreds of good books to read, and lots of forums (including this one) where you can ask people about their beliefs to broaden your knowledge. Cheers.
The atoms that make up you and me were born in the hearts of suns many times greater than ours and in time our atoms will return once again to reside amongst the stars. Life is but an idle dalliance of the cosmos, frail, and soon forgotten. We have been set adrift in an ocean whose tides we are only beginning to comprehend, and with that maturity has come the realization that we are, at least for now, alone. In that loneliness, it falls to us to shine as brightly as the stars from which we came.
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As far as I'm concerned, the one sure 'truth' we have is this: in this life, we all must live with each other. As long as I'm here, I want to do what I can to make the world better for my fellow beings, and I hope that others feel the same. If there is an afterlife, I'll worry about it when I'm dead. I won't get started on the lack of evidence for religion as this isn't the place for it, but if evidence is what a person is concerned about then my earlier advice stands: the best thing you can do is educate yourself. Keep being awesome, Maeve!
The atoms that make up you and me were born in the hearts of suns many times greater than ours and in time our atoms will return once again to reside amongst the stars. Life is but an idle dalliance of the cosmos, frail, and soon forgotten. We have been set adrift in an ocean whose tides we are only beginning to comprehend, and with that maturity has come the realization that we are, at least for now, alone. In that loneliness, it falls to us to shine as brightly as the stars from which we came.
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December 10th 2011, 06:45 PM
If god is just, he will not care about what you believe. If you can really incur god's wrath by not believing, then god is not just, and you should not want to worship him. In my opinion, a good god who punishes non-believers is every bit as contradictory as a square circle.
The atoms that make up you and me were born in the hearts of suns many times greater than ours and in time our atoms will return once again to reside amongst the stars. Life is but an idle dalliance of the cosmos, frail, and soon forgotten. We have been set adrift in an ocean whose tides we are only beginning to comprehend, and with that maturity has come the realization that we are, at least for now, alone. In that loneliness, it falls to us to shine as brightly as the stars from which we came.
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December 11th 2011, 02:12 AM
Hiya, WhitJo! <--awesome name, by the way, haha. My name's Ana (or Eldora), and first off, it's nice to meet you.
![]() If you don't really believe in the Christian god, there is no possible way you can force yourself to believe in him. Experiencing other religions is at first a very fearful thing, coming from someone who who started experimenting with Hellenic paganism at the age of ten. It's a frightening thing, when you think: "Oh, shit. What if I'm doing something wrong, and I die, and I burn in hell?" The first step to breaking free of your birth religion to experiment with others is to study other religions. You don't immediately have to start 'experimenting' with them, but you can read about them and gather information. After you find something you want to experiment with comes the difficult part... You have to learn to work yourself past the fear. You have to fully understand why you are leaving your birth religion, and you have to make the decision that you are leaving it. Working past the fear -- for me, at least -- came with lots of tears and backtracking and soul-searching. Leaving your birth religion, even if only for a little while, is no easy task, especially if your birth religion is Christianity, because there are so many people who would seek to convert you back. However, I've been an atheist for almost a year and a half now, and was a pagan for four years before that. It's hard, but you can do it if you have the determination -- and yes, even the courage -- to persevere. I regret to say that I can't really tell you how to remain a Christian if you want to, as I never had much success with that, myself, haha. Good luck with whatever you choose to do, and feel free to PM me any time you want.
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WhitJo: Go after whatever makes you happy. If Christianity doesn't make you happy, then don't listen to someone who'll make you think you'll go to hell if you don't listen to them. Every human being deserves to be happy for whatever time they have, and if you don't want to read the Christian bible or be a Christian, then you don't have to, and don't feel guilty for it, either. ![]() It takes a long time to grow an old friend. - John Leonard |
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