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Exclamation Would I get in trouble for this? - February 7th 2011, 07:38 AM

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Ok, so I am 17, and have a past of sexual abuse as a child, blah blah blah. I have some really weird things that turn me on and some of them I'm afraid they'd lock me up for..(*ed the ones I mean the most)
Transvestites
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rape (doing and being the victim)*
children and infants***
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Re: Would I get in trouble for this? - February 7th 2011, 09:25 AM

Anybody that gets turned on by Marilyn Manson should be locked up O.o (but not really)
Being attracted to Trans, drag queens and Marilyn Manson won't get you locked up.
Raping someone will though, but when you find somebody you're comfortable having sex with you can role-play it.
Children and infants definitely will get locked up for x.x
Animals, also illegal and so is incest x.x


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Re: Would I get in trouble for this? - February 7th 2011, 10:37 AM

it all depends on how far you take all this stuff. if it is pure thoughts and imagination then there is no reason they can lock you up, only frowned on a bit considering you are still a child yourself. But if you were thinking about doing any of these things then the Pi man above me gives you a good overview


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Re: Would I get in trouble for this? - February 8th 2011, 03:25 AM

You are not alone in being turned on by some of those things; there are tons of fetishes out there. The only issue is, you cannot always make these reality; as you said, you could get in a lot of legal trouble for some of the things you've listed here.

However, role-play between two consenting adults is perfectly fine. Rape play is a common fantasy, as is age play and incest role play. Just make sure that it is all safe, sane and consensual. I would strongly recommend waiting until you have built a strong bond with someone before even touching on these things, though.

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Re: Would I get in trouble for this? - February 8th 2011, 03:30 AM

almost all of the thinga that you mentioned is ok but the children is not ok tou should go see a councler and talk or you could pm me if you want


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Re: Would I get in trouble for this? - February 8th 2011, 03:31 AM

I honestly recommend seeking therapy about this. Some of these things are definitely not normal and are typical for victims of sexual abuse.
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Re: Would I get in trouble for this? - February 8th 2011, 04:44 AM

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I honestly recommend seeking therapy about this. Some of these things are definitely not normal and are typical for victims of sexual abuse.
I agree. The degree and the severity of the fetishes you describe are reallly intense for someone who has a history of sexual abuse. These fetishes might be signs of unworked out feelings and thoughts in your mind. If these are extremely strong and you feel they are unnatural (which is what it sounds like it is), then i would consider seeing a professional about these.

Although from a legal standpoint, no thought can ever get you in trouble, it's when you start acting on them that the law does get involved. As for Lock you up in a mental hospital, that depends on the circumstances and situation, as well as what precient you are in.

Transvestites, drag queens: Although considered "weird" by mainstream culture, this is actually perfectly ok both legally and sexually.

Marilyn Manson: Again, maybe considered weird by some, but different kicks for different people. My only concern here is if you become a stalker and tried to make this fantasy come true with the actual person

rape (doing and being the victim)*: This one has three parts.
1) As an actual fetish, no, it is not all that weird. It has alot to do with power and control in a relationship and some people like tweaking it alot. If you find a partner willing to roleplay with you, it is prefectly fine.

2) ACTUAL rape is illegal as it is taken control of another persons dominion without their consent (a major difference between this scenario and the last one). You should never force another person to have sex with you no matter the circumstances. It is illegal and immoral.

3) As FlyingTrue was getting at, this is not a normal fetish that you should be have considering your sexual abuse history. This IS an important factor, as these fetishes may be symptoms of deeper emotional and sexual issues that have yet to be resovled.

In othre words: This is one of those possible symptoms that you need to talk to a professional about.

children and infants***: This is highly illegal and extremely immoral sexual behavior that should never be acted upon.

I would go so far as to say that this fetish should not be roled played out even between consenting adult couples. It implies child abuse and can cultivate a place in your mind where it seems ok to do. (This entire paragraph, however is my personal opinion and I am willing to discuss it further, elsewhere on the board).

Again, This is one of those possible symptoms that you need to talk to a professional about.

animals*: Animal fetishes are illegal and immoral to preform on actual animals.

However, roleplaying between a consenting couple would be acceptalble to a point. Coustumes, or just growling and animal noises are a good replacement for this.

And again, This is one of those possible symptoms that you need to talk to a professional about.

incest: This is both illegal and immoral to do under any circumstances. Even in mutually consenting cases, this is something that should not be done.

As for roleplaying it with a consenting partner (not your family member), that would be something to take up with them. Some people might be ok acting like your brother or your father for a night. Others might find it creepy.

And yet again, This is one of those possible symptoms that you need to talk to a professional about.

I hope this makes some more sense to you. In general, what you feel cannot get you in trouble, unless you are stupid enough to act on them in stupid ways. However, My main consern here is that you have all of these fetishes PLUS a history of child abuse. This MUST be addressed as soon as possible to prevent long term sexual, emotional, and social damage in your life.


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Re: Would I get in trouble for this? - February 8th 2011, 01:30 PM

As a victim of child hood sexual abuse, it's possible that some of the fetishes you mentioned are related to the experiences you had as a child. Regardless of whether they are or not, it may be a good idea to speak to a professional. Trauma can have a way of effecting our lives in other ways without us realizing, and professionals can be helpful in aiding us in recognizing and remedying those effects.

I'm of the opinion that there is a far cry between fantasizing and doing something. Many of the things you mentioned above are never, ever okay to do and would result in grave legal ramifications should you do them. Despite the gap between fantasy and reality, you may want to bring them up when talking to a therapist.


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Re: Would I get in trouble for this? - February 8th 2011, 02:20 PM

If you're talking about age play, and any other role play I think it's fine.

But I also agree with possibly going to counseling, even if nothing is wrong that you can tell.


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Re: Would I get in trouble for this? - February 9th 2011, 01:06 AM

Marilyn Manson turns me on also. He is a sexy beast.
   
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Re: Would I get in trouble for this? - February 10th 2011, 12:52 AM

kyeto-x, i think though ur information is true, about what is illegal and what should stay a fetish make sense, however i think you should be more considerate. the point of support forums r to support those with problems or questions, not make them feel guilty or judged. as its already been stated this person was sexually abused as a child and yes, you are right when you say that this person could benefit from talking to a counselor, but i doubt they would benefit from being put down.
   
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Re: Would I get in trouble for this? - February 10th 2011, 12:59 AM

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kyeto-x, i think though ur information is true, about what is illegal and what should stay a fetish make sense, however i think you should be more considerate. the point of support forums r to support those with problems or questions, not make them feel guilty or judged. as its already been stated this person was sexually abused as a child and yes, you are right when you say that this person could benefit from talking to a counselor, but i doubt they would benefit from being put down.
Will wasn't putting her down, he was just rooting out everything she said in an easy to read manner. While it may not have been the cheeriest, it was probably the most helpful response in this board. And I agree with everything he said.

And LostInsideOfMe, you won't get into trouble for having those feelings. Just don't act on them. You might want to seek a therapist to help you discuss you're feelings though. If you ever need to talk, PM me.



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Re: Would I get in trouble for this? - February 11th 2011, 02:24 PM

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kyeto-x, i think though ur information is true, about what is illegal and what should stay a fetish make sense, however i think you should be more considerate. the point of support forums r to support those with problems or questions, not make them feel guilty or judged. as its already been stated this person was sexually abused as a child and yes, you are right when you say that this person could benefit from talking to a counselor, but i doubt they would benefit from being put down.
I was not under the impression that my advice was inconsiderate. I qwas not under any circumstances trying to make anyone feel guilty. It was just the fact that she was having this broad array of extreme fetishes WITH a history of child abuse, that the user mentioned herself, that made me think there might be a cooralation. All I was saying is that these perticular extreme fetishes need to be looked at by a doctor.

It's the emotional equalivalent of you complaining of sever stomach cramps and diarrhea after eating shrimp cocktails from a shady restraunt. We are pretty sure what the cause is, the symptoms are sever and need to be looked at anyways, and there are people who get paid to look into this kind of thing.

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Re: Would I get in trouble for this? - February 13th 2011, 02:27 AM

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^agree with this
people are trying to be polite and friendly here, which is good, but this is some worrying stuff to hear. seriously.
   
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Re: Would I get in trouble for this? - February 23rd 2011, 01:28 AM

I apologize as i might have come off rude, i was just trying to be helpful : ) ya'll have a good day
   
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Re: Would I get in trouble for this? - February 25th 2011, 05:48 AM

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Transvestites
- Nope, this is legal
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drag queens
- This is legal as well
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Marilyn Manson
- Depends if s/he wants it from you
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rape (doing and being the victim)
- Legal to play rape, not legal to rape, but you can be raped, that's not a crime.
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children and infants
- Depends on the age, if we're talking 16, then it's legal, anything done to someone below that is almost always considered statutory rape.
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animals
- I know this is legal (bestiality) in Denmark, and other parts of Europe, it is an iffy area in the United States, but generally illegal.
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incest
- Depends on the distance of relation, in the United States anything as close as 2nd cousin is illegal.



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