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Porn disgusts me - December 19th 2011, 11:47 AM

Yes, i find the whole concept of it degrading. Ive always been disgusted by it, never watched or read porn in my life. You may think this is odd, but to me ive never liked it at all.

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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 19th 2011, 11:53 AM

I love to read porn. Well not exactly porn. But books with loadsa sex in them! But watching it disgusts me. Because there are no feelings attached there.
   
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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 19th 2011, 12:53 PM

I like reading it more than watching it. Watching it, it can often look fake and degrading.


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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 19th 2011, 02:03 PM

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I like reading it more than watching it. Watching it, it can often look fake and degrading.
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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 19th 2011, 07:04 PM

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never watched or read porn in my life.

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You hate it without watching or reading it? What?

And no, I don't feel the same. I'm don't really like real-person porn (both because I find it unappealing one usually has to pay for it), but I do enjoy hentai and erotica on a regular basis.

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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 19th 2011, 07:08 PM

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You hate it without watching or reading it? What?

And no, I don't feel the same. I'm don't really like real-person porn (both because I find it unappealing and one usually has to pay for it), but I do enjoy hentai and erotica on a regular basis.
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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 19th 2011, 07:21 PM

It's your personal preference. Nobody should judge you for it.

For me, I like watching porn. Reading it doesn't give me the satisfaction that watching it does.











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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 19th 2011, 07:24 PM

It's all about your personal preference.
Personally, I'm not a fan because it's degrading and often looks fake. But, that doesn't mean I haven't watched it at one point or another.


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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 19th 2011, 07:31 PM

I've watched porn. Never read it.

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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 19th 2011, 07:53 PM

As others have said, it's all about personal preference. Personally, I don't watch it unless my boyfriend wants to show me something he wants to try. But I really don't care. Whereas my boyfriend loves it.
   
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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 19th 2011, 09:01 PM

I don't see it as degrading at all. I like it.
   
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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 19th 2011, 09:13 PM

I watch porn but not read it as that rarely does anything, I'm more of a visual person. I don't find it degrading but even if I did find it degrading, I still wouldn't care and would continue watching it.


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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 19th 2011, 09:13 PM

Although I have looked at some nude pictures, I find the overall concept of porn to be pretty disgusting. From what I understand, the industry frequently either digitally or physically modifies people's bodies, including their genitals, to increase attractiveness and pleasure for the person watching. That's just absolutely ridiculous--it sends the wrong message. Hmm...wonder why so many boys are concerned that their penis is too small, or same thing with breasts for girls? Could it be that the feel that porn is cool, and therefore the only way to be "cool" is to physically look like those porn stars? That's my theory...and I'm rather sure it is pretty darn accurate.


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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 19th 2011, 09:35 PM

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Although I have looked at some nude pictures, I find the overall concept of porn to be pretty disgusting. From what I understand, the industry frequently either digitally or physically modifies people's bodies, including their genitals, to increase attractiveness and pleasure for the person watching. That's just absolutely ridiculous--it sends the wrong message. Hmm...wonder why so many boys are concerned that their penis is too small, or same thing with breasts for girls? Could it be that the feel that porn is cool, and therefore the only way to be "cool" is to physically look like those porn stars? That's my theory...and I'm rather sure it is pretty darn accurate.
And yet many other things are modified to make them better. Big Mac's in a McDonald's ad are painted in glue to make them look glazed. In action films special effects make explosions look better. If you've ever made a meal for someone who you wished to impress you probably folded the napkin nicely, or garnished the food in some way.

When something is done for pleasure I don't see the problem with enhancing it.

At the same time, porn doesn't do anything for me. It's not that I find it "gross" or have some moral issue with it being "degrading". I just find it's far too fake, and in no way represents the love that sex represents to me.

On the topic of being degrading: The men and women in porn obviously do not view it as degrading. If you were raking in millions for showing off your body you wouldn't feel degraded if it were your personal choice. It's a choice made by the "actors" (which as a term is offensive to the craft of acting.)

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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 19th 2011, 11:25 PM

I don't like porn in the slightest, especially videos. In my mind people who do that on video for others to see are degrading themselves. However, it's different if a couple is making a video solely for themselves. If a couple wants to make a porn vid, they can go for it. I just don't like the idea of having sex on video for complete strangers to see.


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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 20th 2011, 02:39 AM

I have almost stopped watching porn completely. It kind of seems to screw with the idea that women = people for me. I don't know, I just feel more "connected" on a different level with women ever since I stopped watching. If I ever do indulge, it's usually an amateur video. I think some of you may find this site entertaining/ interesting as well:

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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 20th 2011, 05:38 AM

As far as it being degrading if you think it is the best thing to do is just not watch it. Alot of people do not like this form of porn because they think it is degrading and that they feel like they are looking at something they shouldn't be. As far as reading porn goes, alot of people don't have anything against it as you can tell from the above comments. The reason for that is when you are reading it instead of watching you're not actually looking at something you think that you shouldn't be. Also when reading porn you can get more of a sense of what is happening and how it happend.
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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 20th 2011, 09:48 AM

It annoys me when people say porn degrades women. Why, if an individual chooses to make a pornographic film, does it reflect badly on me, just by virtue of being female? It doesn't.

I'm not saying porn can't be degrading, but there is a big difference between some video of a blonde with big fake boobs screwing the pizza delivery guy and some interacial gangbang cum shot double penetration clusterfuck where the girl is getting choked and spit on. In my opinion, that is degrading to the woman in the video, (at the point you start spitting on someone, the intention is to degrade), but if those woman are choosing to do that then more power to them.

I would never put myself in that position, and I'm sure 99% of the female population of TH wouldn't either. I think it's easy, then, that we would say "Well I wouldn't choose it, so the women in porn probably don't choose it. They must be forced. Victims..... victims!"

In my opinion thinking that is just as degrading to woman because you're taking away their choice, reducing them to children and casting them with the label of victimhood. Of course some women might be coerced into porn. A large chunk were probably victims of circumstance or other problems (as in they needed the money, or they because addicted to certain things). But not every single damn women in porn is some kind of sex slave whose pimp got them hooked on heroin, and who was susceptible to it all because of the sexual abuse she suffered as a child. Some women (shock horror) choose to take part in pornography of their own free will. Some enjoy it. Some probably think of it as easy money.

It all comes down to individual circumstances. It's silly to make sweeping generalisations about women in porn, or, more succinctly, women in general.


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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 20th 2011, 03:07 PM

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I have almost stopped watching porn completely. It kind of seems to screw with the idea that women = people for me. I don't know, I just feel more "connected" on a different level with women ever since I stopped watching. If I ever do indulge, it's usually an amateur video. I think some of you may find this site entertaining/ interesting as well:

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I've heard of that site, but I don't think porn subconsciously tells us that women are objects. We're like that regardless (). The biggest part of it isn't porn but masturbation (which, on that site they tell you to stop as well) which is fueled by porn. When you're sexually satisfying yourself, you really have no reason to go out and work hard to get laid. Stopping everything, supposedly makes you more naturally flirty because the stakes have risen. It does cause things like erectile dysfunction though, which this generation is going to have huuuuge problems with in the future. I'm so desensitized to porn anyways, basic stuff does nothing for me anymore.

And Degradation is hot though. You wouldn't get in someones face about what they do in the privacy of their own home, such as a couple engaging in BDSM, so how is simply watching it any worse? As long as people don't push their opinion on it as fact, then I'm fine.

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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 20th 2011, 03:48 PM

I'll be openly honest here. I don't like it. Being a bit older I did have a job in the adult industry, it wasn't glamerous or fun. The job I did I faked most of what I did so I know it's fake. It doesn't even amaze me on how fake the movies are. There has to be some realness to anything before I watch it, even with regular TV.


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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 20th 2011, 04:02 PM

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And yet many other things are modified to make them better. Big Mac's in a McDonald's ad are painted in glue to make them look glazed. In action films special effects make explosions look better. If you've ever made a meal for someone who you wished to impress you probably folded the napkin nicely, or garnished the food in some way.

When something is done for pleasure I don't see the problem with enhancing it.
That's a little different, isn't it? People don't have big macs on their bodies, nor napkins. That's a question of being impressive in the presentation of a PRODUCT, not someone's body. That's is a HUGE difference. If you ask me, bodies are not a commodity. Bodies are not to be advertised or marketed. Bodies are the physical manifestation of us--a physical manifestation that doesn't matter nearly as much as the spiritual one. So why in the world do we have an industry distributing films that make people think that their body isn't good enough? When in fact the bodies of the people in the film has been enhanced and isn't even NATURAL in the first place. It's a nasty, nasty coverup. And I think somebody should uncover it once and for all.


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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 20th 2011, 05:00 PM

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That's a little different, isn't it? People don't have big macs on their bodies, nor napkins. That's a question of being impressive in the presentation of a PRODUCT, not someone's body. That's is a HUGE difference. If you ask me, bodies are not a commodity. Bodies are not to be advertised or marketed. Bodies are the physical manifestation of us--a physical manifestation that doesn't matter nearly as much as the spiritual one. So why in the world do we have an industry distributing films that make people think that their body isn't good enough? When in fact the bodies of the people in the film has been enhanced and isn't even NATURAL in the first place. It's a nasty, nasty coverup. And I think somebody should uncover it once and for all.
If that's your opinion, fine. I however view it as no different than making any other service or idea more "exciting".

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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 20th 2011, 06:06 PM

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If that's your opinion, fine. I however view it as no different than making any other service or idea more "exciting".

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And why does it NEED to be so "exciting"? Why do you NEED a big penis or abnormally large breasts to be "excited" by a video of sex? Why the heck does size matter?


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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 20th 2011, 06:43 PM

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I've heard of that site, but I don't think porn subconsciously tells us that women are objects. We're like that regardless (). The biggest part of it isn't porn but masturbation (which, on that site they tell you to stop as well) which is fueled by porn. When you're sexually satisfying yourself, you really have no reason to go out and work hard to get laid. Stopping everything, supposedly makes you more naturally flirty because the stakes have risen. It does cause things like erectile dysfunction though, which this generation is going to have huuuuge problems with in the future. I'm so desensitized to porn anyways, basic stuff does nothing for me anymore.

And Degradation is hot though. You wouldn't get in someones face about what they do in the privacy of their own home, such as a couple engaging in BDSM, so how is simply watching it any worse? As long as people don't push their opinion on it as fact, then I'm fine.
Very well put. What I meant by seeing women as people was that they are not some mental image I put in my spank bank and "fap" to later. I am indeed more inclined to walk up and talk to them, thus raising the potential for actual sex.


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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 20th 2011, 07:50 PM

Honestly I don't really see the point in it. Some people "get off" from it. I don't see how they can do that, Isn't it better to have sex yourself then watch other people do it? The ones in it don't even feel thing because they've done it so much. It makes people seem like sex objects instead of humans. It's more of a turn off than a turn off if you consider what is actually happening. That's not how sex is in reality because it is directed and edited. As you can tell, I don't like and don't support it.
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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 20th 2011, 07:54 PM

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That's a little different, isn't it? People don't have big macs on their bodies, nor napkins. That's a question of being impressive in the presentation of a PRODUCT, not someone's body. That's is a HUGE difference. If you ask me, bodies are not a commodity. Bodies are not to be advertised or marketed. Bodies are the physical manifestation of us--a physical manifestation that doesn't matter nearly as much as the spiritual one. So why in the world do we have an industry distributing films that make people think that their body isn't good enough? When in fact the bodies of the people in the film has been enhanced and isn't even NATURAL in the first place. It's a nasty, nasty coverup. And I think somebody should uncover it once and for all.
People do not make the bodies of people in pornography commodities by watching it, the people who are in the business of using their bodies for their work (ie porn stars) are the ones who are trading in on their bodies. You may not like it but I don't see why it should be up to you or anyone else what people choose to do with their own bodies as long as they are a) not hurting anyone else b) of a reasonable mindset (I say this last one because I know someone is going to bring up some obscure example of someone stabbing themselves in the stomach or something similar).

As for the whole thing about the way people look in porn, you're argument could be made of the whole media. It's unfair to say that pornography is degrading because it sets an unrealistic standard of the human body without saying that romantic comedies and action movies and romances and television shows and advertisements and the modeling industry set unrealistic standards of body image. It is not porn specific so I don't see how you can make this argument without calling for people to boycott movies and television and other forms of visual media.

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And why does it NEED to be so "exciting"? Why do you NEED a big penis or abnormally large breasts to be "excited" by a video of sex? Why the heck does size matter?
...Because that's what some people like? I don't really think it's your place to dictate what people should and shouldn't be attracted too, and whether it is wrong or right.

It 'needs' to be 'exciting' because that's the whole point. And a lot of people find big boobs attractive. Many don't, which is why there is plenty of porn out there which contain women with regular, natural breasts. People are 'excited' by different things.. For some people they want to watch asian porn, others want amature porn, some like it rough, some only watch threesomes. Overwhelmingly, people want buff guys with large penises and fit girls with big breasts. It's just supply and demand. The porn industry is not making people think that women should have tiny waists, and large, circus jugs. It's the other way around. The porn industry is just that, an industry, concerned with making money. They would stop making that kind of porn if people stopped wanting it, but I think you'll be waiting a long time.


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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 20th 2011, 08:49 PM

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People do not make the bodies of people in pornography commodities by watching it, the people who are in the business of using their bodies for their work (ie porn stars) are the ones who are trading in on their bodies. You may not like it but I don't see why it should be up to you or anyone else what people choose to do with their own bodies as long as they are a) not hurting anyone else b) of a reasonable mindset (I say this last one because I know someone is going to bring up some obscure example of someone stabbing themselves in the stomach or something similar).
It's not up to me or anyone else what people do to their bodies. Fine. That's their business. However, I beg to differ about the "not hurting anyone else" part. I'm pretty sure that having a bad mindset about your body image IS harmful.

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As for the whole thing about the way people look in porn, you're argument could be made of the whole media. It's unfair to say that pornography is degrading because it sets an unrealistic standard of the human body without saying that romantic comedies and action movies and romances and television shows and advertisements and the modeling industry set unrealistic standards of body image. It is not porn specific so I don't see how you can make this argument without calling for people to boycott movies and television and other forms of visual media.
I didn't say that romantic comedies and action movies and romances and television shows and advertisements and the modeling industry do not set unrealistic standards of body image. I didn't say that they DO either. Do I believe that they do? YES. But we're not talking about that. We're talking about porn. Therefore I see little reason to bring them into this argument in the first place, and not ALL media is going to have that effect on people anyway.

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..Because that's what some people like? I don't really think it's your place to dictate what people should and shouldn't be attracted too, and whether it is wrong or right.
I never said you SHOULDN'T be attracted to a large penis. I never said it's WRONG to be attracted to a large penis. And in fact I don't intend to say anything of the sort. It's natural, normal, fine, and to be expected. But what I am getting at here is that this shouldn't be ABOUT size. Sex is an expression of love (at least in theory). If you truly LOVE someone, you aren't going to CARE what they look like that much, you are going to care that they are the person you love. So pornography (and a lot of other media, if you must have that in there) is sending the wrong message--they are perhaps unintentionally telling people that the only way to be loved, and the only way you should ever love yourself, is if your genitals are larger than natural likely or naturally POSSIBLE. Tell me that there isn't something wrong with that.

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It 'needs' to be 'exciting' because that's the whole point. And a lot of people find big boobs attractive. Many don't, which is why there is plenty of porn out there which contain women with regular, natural breasts. People are 'excited' by different things.. For some people they want to watch asian porn, others want amature porn, some like it rough, some only watch threesomes. Overwhelmingly, people want buff guys with large penises and fit girls with big breasts. It's just supply and demand. The porn industry is not making people think that women should have tiny waists, and large, circus jugs. It's the other way around. The porn industry is just that, an industry, concerned with making money. They would stop making that kind of porn if people stopped wanting it, but I think you'll be waiting a long time.
May I ask though why people should EXPECT anyone to have genitals that are sized larger than naturally possible? It sounds to me like our expectations exceed what is actually possible without crazy photoshopping or surgery.


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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 20th 2011, 09:33 PM

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And why does it NEED to be so "exciting"? Why do you NEED a big penis or abnormally large breasts to be "excited" by a video of sex? Why the heck does size matter?

If you read my whole post, you'd realize I stated porn is not my thing.

At the same time, just as any concept can and will be supersized and dramatized, doesn't somehow change reality.

Seeing a fancy Big Mac in a McDonald's ad will not convince me that when I go into a store I will be served anything but a cold, flat hamburger.

I have the intelligence to distinguish fact from altered reality in advertisements, just as those who watch porn are able to distinguish real men and women from scientifically engineered to be "sexy", plastic porn stars.

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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 20th 2011, 09:56 PM

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We're talking about porn. Therefore I see little reason to bring them into this argument in the first place, and not ALL media is going to have that effect on people anyway.
I've been lurking and trying really hard not to become a part of this whole debate, but I want to say that there's actually a lot more effect from magazines and movies than porn. I've seen poor body images in girls who idolise women like Megan Fox and other skinny, plastic women who have never watched porn, or who have seen it once but don't like to watch porn. In my opinion, porn is less harmful than the fashion magazines and television shows that more or less tell young women that pole-thin waists are what's attractive. Why? Because it sends the same message about body image you're claiming porn sends (can't say my body image has ever come from porn, but then, I choose to watch amateur porn because I prefer the men and women with average bodies/body types) on a broader scale. More women consume magazines and sitcoms than they do porn, so in my opinion, to say not all media sends a bad message but porn ttly does is actually ignoring the fact there's a very real problem that goes beyond the porn industry.


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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 20th 2011, 10:11 PM

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I never said you SHOULDN'T be attracted to a large penis. I never said it's WRONG to be attracted to a large penis. And in fact I don't intend to say anything of the sort. It's natural, normal, fine, and to be expected. But what I am getting at here is that this shouldn't be ABOUT size. Sex is an expression of love (at least in theory). If you truly LOVE someone, you aren't going to CARE what they look like that much, you are going to care that they are the person you love. So pornography (and a lot of other media, if you must have that in there) is sending the wrong message--they are perhaps unintentionally telling people that the only way to be loved, and the only way you should ever love yourself, is if your genitals are larger than natural likely or naturally POSSIBLE. Tell me that there isn't something wrong with that.
I only have one thing to say, but that's your opinion on sex though. Others may think it's purely a primal instinct and that's it. You don't like porn because you think it's sending the wrong message based on how YOU see sex, despite the fact that TONS of people don't see it the same way as you. And anyone who thinks there's something loving about watching a guy slam a girl while he chokes her has issues.

We're more turned on by what we like, people have something called preferences. I don't think it's the fault of porn companies to cater to what people really want, which isn't a below-average looking couple having sex, but attractive people. There's a reason why movies with attractive movie stars do better than ones with average-looking people, and that's because we like looking at attractive people better. Amateur porn is insanely huge now anyways, so even the market is beginning to reject that 'perfect' human being as fake and is going towards normal people a bit more.
   
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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 20th 2011, 10:54 PM

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I've been lurking and trying really hard not to become a part of this whole debate, but I want to say that there's actually a lot more effect from magazines and movies than porn. I've seen poor body images in girls who idolise women like Megan Fox and other skinny, plastic women who have never watched porn, or who have seen it once but don't like to watch porn. In my opinion, porn is less harmful than the fashion magazines and television shows that more or less tell young women that pole-thin waists are what's attractive. Why? Because it sends the same message about body image you're claiming porn sends (can't say my body image has ever come from porn, but then, I choose to watch amateur porn because I prefer the men and women with average bodies/body types) on a broader scale. More women consume magazines and sitcoms than they do porn, so in my opinion, to say not all media sends a bad message but porn ttly does is actually ignoring the fact there's a very real problem that goes beyond the porn industry.
I do not doubt in the slightest that you are correct--we have a MAJOR problem here. And again, I do not mean in the slightest to suggest that porn is the ONLY source of this problem. But i believe that it is a contributor.


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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 21st 2011, 05:18 AM

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I'm pretty sure that having a bad mindset about your body image IS harmful.
I'm not sure you can count hurting someone's feeling as being harmful. People really need to suck it up. If you can't watch porn because the people are too attractive then maybe you should just walk around blindfolded in case you see someone with large breasts walking down the street, or see an attractive leading man in a movie.

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I didn't say that romantic comedies and action movies and romances and television shows and advertisements and the modeling industry do not set unrealistic standards of body image. I didn't say that they DO either. Do I believe that they do? YES. But we're not talking about that. We're talking about porn. Therefore I see little reason to bring them into this argument in the first place, and not ALL media is going to have that effect on people anyway.
I bought it into the argument because you're disproportionately blaming porn for a problem that's much more the fault of the mainstream media. You can say you think that about all things but I doubt you'd get as angry when you see Megan Fox in a movie or that you are calling television a dangerous thing that needs to be shut down.

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I never said you SHOULDN'T be attracted to a large penis. I never said it's WRONG to be attracted to a large penis. And in fact I don't intend to say anything of the sort. It's natural, normal, fine, and to be expected. But what I am getting at here is that this shouldn't be ABOUT size. Sex is an expression of love (at least in theory). If you truly LOVE someone, you aren't going to CARE what they look like that much, you are going to care that they are the person you love. So pornography (and a lot of other media, if you must have that in there) is sending the wrong message--they are perhaps unintentionally telling people that the only way to be loved, and the only way you should ever love yourself, is if your genitals are larger than natural likely or naturally POSSIBLE. Tell me that there isn't something wrong with that.

May I ask though why people should EXPECT anyone to have genitals that are sized larger than naturally possible? It sounds to me like our expectations exceed what is actually possible without crazy photoshopping or surgery.
I'm pretty sure 99.99% of the people who watch porn can differentiate between porn and real life. You talk about love, but I find that really irrelevent. People don't watch porn to find 'true love', they watch it to get off. Some people can't dissocociate the two which is why they might watch porn with a storyline, or read an erotic romance novel. That's absolutely fine, but it is no more unrealistic than porn.

I think most people know that, for example, it's unlikely that if you're delivering pizza a couple of milfs are going to invite you in for a 'good time'. They also know that if you walk in on your step mother masturbating she proooobably isn't going to ask you to join. Just like they know most size 0s aren't going to have double D's.

Porn is just fiction (provided we are talking about porn with actors and not some dodgey webcam video of a couple). I don't expect movies or television shows to be realistic either. I also don't watch, say, Nikita, and expect to be able to go outside and kick a guy's ass twice my size. I know that wouldn't happen in real life, but since it's fiction, and the makers of fiction give us what we want- which is often something we know we can't get/something that won't happen in real life.


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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 21st 2011, 07:31 AM

In my opinion porn is not a black and white thing. It actually resides mostly in really gray areas, but it's people's INTERPRETATION that determines how they feel about it, and that is always going to change or vary or be at odds with someone's else's opinion. Porn can disgust you, or it can completely excite you.

I only started really watching porn when I was 19. Before that time, when I was 18, I had taken a feminist studies class as part of my freshman year of college. It was an amazing class that opened my eyes to a lot of things. One of the sections, however, was about women and pornography. Basically, the main gist of it was that porn is an industry for males by males, primarily, and does little to take into account the respect, rights, and decency of the women involved. Basically that that form of sexuality is, though not always by any means, but sometimes used to exploit women for their bodies. In addition, while it may be thought that it doesn't "harm" anyone, it does. It actually creates a psychological portrayal of women and how they should be treated that men carry it over outside their homes and into the public. Basically, porn serves as a negative viewing lens with which to paint, and consequently treat, members of the female sex.

Do I think this has some truth to it, especially with some of the stuff that's out there? Yes, I do. But I don't think all porn is bad because of it. I think it really depends on the pornography.

When I first started watching, I saw a lot of the fake stuff: fake boobs, fake attitudes, fake sexual satisfaction. Like I said, for men by men, which didn't really take into account women's needs and wants. Consequently, I got bored with watching that kind of porn, for the most part. It really just takes the heart of it.

In the past two years, I was able to see that a lot of women ENJOY displaying themselves as such, and actually have a lot of fun doing it. They do it with full consent, and don't mind at all. And no, these women weren't porn stars, they were plain, simple women, lawyers and doctors and teachers and librarians and florists...anything you can think of. They were focused on porn that incorporated women into it, and showed them taking pleasure in what they did rather than just being used by the man. They may have chosen degradation, but they did it because they liked it, not because they were lured into it, and portrayed it in such a way that was not degrading to women as a sex, because it wasn't about being a woman in some ways. It was more about showing the beauty of sexual acts themselves, in whatever fashion they desired. And the men, or other women, in them treated them with respect and regard.

In addition, I was able to find porn where there was a HEART to it. Not only was it artistically done, but it was moving. I could FEEL the passion and genuine lust there, and that interested me much more than it did otherwise.

So is porn bad? In some respects, yes. But it's not evil. Is it good? Not necessarily, but it has good and even touching moments. It's all just a balance, and balance is what life is about.



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Re: Porn disgusts me - December 24th 2011, 04:59 AM

I sometimes like to read porn like stuff... but yeah, I know what you mean, I don't like watching it... it's just too cheesy and fake.


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