In the hospital...

[Juggalette Mommy]

Ok.. so my baby has neumonia.. they saidits not my fault tho. .tht he could have gotten it from the neumonia shot.. and im tottally changing doctors... he told me not to worry about his cause thet it was perfectly normal... he told me to start solids... he told me to let him sleep from 8 pm-like 10 am.. WITHOUT WAKING HIM TO FEED HIM..


austins mom is looking for new peds for me.. cause this is rediculous...

o and we found out jerichos allergect to latex.. he brok out in a rash where they touched him lol :P



and they sucked his nose with a vaccum... and they poked him like 12 times trying to get an iv started... and it sucks.. and im not even in my city ne more... they had to move him to ft collins cause mckee and ncmc were full with little kids.. and they think he may have RVS ( or whatever..)
and they had to cath him

but he puked with so much force that it liek bounced back at him from my chest .. TWICE!... and he puked on sie twice.. and sue was carrying him and getting ready to put him in the carseat and he went all limp.. and he wound up bn severly dehidrated.. (his doctor told me he couldnt b dehydrated.. he also told me not to give him water.... idk y...

but austins up here with me and the rest of my family is coming up tomarrow...

they said its gonna b a 2-3 day stay if not a 5-6 day stay... austins probably gonna try to book it outta here as soon as he possibly can lol but oh well lol as longas i have TH ill b ok


I'm in ped's and they have a like... 42" tv.. and the tv turns into this computer screen lol and the keyboard and mouse are on this like.. pad thing.. its pretty kool lol


but idk if i can take all this crying lol i hear it from jericho.. and i hear it from all the other babys in this place ..


Canu belive theres 6 other little kids all same problems as him.. all here now...


weird huh?


ne way.. will check back later... wating for austin to come up from having his ciggarette so we can go get dinner in the caf lol

oo and the nurse bitched austin out about smokeing anywhere near the baby and how the smoke stays on ur clothes lol so that was kinda a bonus :P


like i said will pop back in later.. hopefuly wit good news..

[MegaMadness]

I hope everythings okay. Stay strong.

[Magical Forest.]

I'm sorry to hear that
I hope the little man is well very very soon!

[Bibliophile]

I hope everything is okay. My PM box is open if you need anything.
Hopefully your little boy will be back to normal soon.
Keep strong.

[Juggalette Mommy]

ok so .. quick update.. he's doing a good chunk better.. the doctor said forsure 1 more night.. so that kinda sux.. but.. meh lol what ever gets him better...


i have an ear inflection i fink... i blew my nose and my ear felt liek the inside was ripping apart.. it hurts like sooooooo damn bad.. but... i have a cotto ball shoved in it lol

so in the last like hour jerichos had 8 oz formula.. and 2 diapers... 1 dirty ( austin accedentally threw it away b4 giving it to the nurse lol but its ok) and 1 wet i think...

the rom were in has a like.. awesome bathtub lol but idk if were allowed to use it lol

myear hurtssssssss

if yall want to see pics of him atm.. go to http://www.myspace.com/juggalette_princess click on pics.. and go to Mobile pics

he has tubes.. liek non down his throat or anything.. but he's on oxygen... and has an iv in his foot.. and is like,, 1/3 the size of the bed.. lol


so yea.. may pop back in in a few hoursifi get any more news..


oh and my mom bought me a corset.. and the zipper part of the corset was metal... but the pully tab thingy.. was plastic.. so my mom isgonna go to hobby lobby andget me a new pully lol


other than thaaaaat

ill b back later ty all 4 ur support...

[Through-Glass]

Hey there,

I'm so sorry to hear that your little one is sick. Just remember that the doctors will do everything they can to get him better, and have hope. He'll be okay.

I'm so happy to hear that you've decided to switch doctors. If your current pediatrician isn't catching these sort of things, it's always a good idea to get a second opinion.

Take care.

[iHEAVENn]

Hmm.......
Well babies don't really NEED to drink bottles of water...
As long as they're getting the right amount of formula/breastmilk. You shouldn't have to start them on water until about 6 months.
Pneumonia is in no way normal for an infant and is very dangerous..
You really need to find a new doctor, and when you do tell that doctor every thing that has been given to your son so far so he/she can reeducate you on the proper guidelines for infants and help you get your son back to a healthy little boy.

It's not your fault he got pneumonia/rsv. It does happen... just make sure the doctors are doing everything they can to get him better, and that you're paying attention to everything they say, not just staring at the bathtub in the room.

[xx little miss clumsy xx]

Hi
I hope your little boy is feeling better soon
Take care
x

[Imagine]

Hope your little guy gets better really soon!

[her_beautiful_mistake]

Hey! I'm so glad your little one is getting better

I went to your myspace but I couldn't find the picture link. Do excuse me, I'm a bit backwards when it comes to all computer related things.

I hope he keeps getting better!

Originally Posted by iHEAVENn

just make sure the doctors are doing everything they can to get him better, and that you're paying attention to everything they say, not just staring at the bathtub in the room.

Thats uncalled for Amy.

[Juggalette Mommy]

Well.. turns out he has RSV not nuemonia.. and CPS got there asses involved.. some stupid nurse sid i was giving him a sippy cup and they reported he was malnurished.. and just gr


i wanted to give yall good news and verythings fucing uppppp the CPS dude said if he's dismissed tomarrow he wants to come over tomarrow night.. and were in the middle of remodling and we have all the carpet torn up and like everything is pushedv into other rooms and its a mess.. nad theres no eway to get it cleaned.. at least not to there standards in 1 night,, and my mom is trying to ditch me and dont want to come up and i have no money for food and (((((( im going to drive myself crazy...

[losing touch.]

hope he's all better soon!. x

[Juggalette Mommy]

ok well my moms legs gaveout so i told her not to come up.. austins going to come back up.. i managed to get A 10 dollar food voucher,, and i found this amazing cafe downstairs lol best frozen esspresso ive ever had lol they took jericho off the oxygen and the monitors all he has now is the iv.. but he's sleeping alot.. but he's heeling lol either austins mom or john () our friend) will bring austin back up onight... lol

so yah finnally good news 4 JJ

but im going to see if they can hold us for 1 more night to give my mom and dad a lil more time to clean the house..

[iHEAVENn]

Originally Posted by her_beautiful_mistake

Hey! I'm so glad your little one is getting better

I went to your myspace but I couldn't find the picture link. Do excuse me, I'm a bit backwards when it comes to all computer related things.

I hope he keeps getting better!





Thats uncalled for Amy.

How on earth is that uncalled for?!
I was in NO WAY being rude to her, simply suggesting that she pay attention to every single detail the doctors tell her while they're in the room. Not just attention to extra things in the room.

You know what I find uncalled for as a MOTHER?
The fact that her CHILD is in the hospital under serious conditions and she's "LOLING" and Oggling over the t.v. and internet and bath tub.
THAT is uncalled for!

Situations like these are NOTHING TO LOL about and frankly, I'm fed up with people saying my statements that are to HELP this poor girl out are uncalled for.

Again, my FIRST statement was in no way to be rude. This statement however take it any way you want I don't care. She is a MOTHER, a Mother should not and frankly in my opinion EVERY single mother I know personally WOULD never dote on how "awesome" the hospital room is, or how awesome a new "corset" is when her infant is in the hospital with a life threatening illness.

-Now say my statement is uncalled for and have a moderator edit it. I'm stating the cold hard truth about this poor girl since no one else on here will. I'm willing to help her out but for crying out loud your kid is hurting and you're doting on stupid meaningless crap.

[iHEAVENn]

Originally Posted by Bisexual Juggalette Mommy

Well.. turns out he has RSV not nuemonia.. and CPS got there asses involved.. some stupid nurse sid i was giving him a sippy cup and they reported he was malnurished.. and just gr


i wanted to give yall good news and verythings fucing uppppp the CPS dude said if he's dismissed tomarrow he wants to come over tomarrow night.. and were in the middle of remodling and we have all the carpet torn up and like everything is pushedv into other rooms and its a mess.. nad theres no eway to get it cleaned.. at least not to there standards in 1 night,, and my mom is trying to ditch me and dont want to come up and i have no money for food and (((((( im going to drive myself crazy...

You'd be surprised at how clean your house actually has to be for cps..
If you're remodeling the home, have your mom make sure the babies area for sleeping playing and eating is clean and that there are no harmful materials nearby.
They won't take a baby away for a remodled house... So don't stress over that.

[LucyLouWho]

Originally Posted by iHEAVENn

How on earth is that uncalled for?!
I was in NO WAY being rude to her, simply suggesting that she pay attention to every single detail the doctors tell her while they're in the room. Not just attention to extra things in the room.

You know what I find uncalled for as a MOTHER?
The fact that her CHILD is in the hospital under serious conditions and she's "LOLING" and Oggling over the t.v. and internet and bath tub.
THAT is uncalled for!

Situations like these are NOTHING TO LOL about and frankly, I'm fed up with people saying my statements that are to HELP this poor girl out are uncalled for.

Again, my FIRST statement was in no way to be rude. This statement however take it any way you want I don't care. She is a MOTHER, a Mother should not and frankly in my opinion EVERY single mother I know personally WOULD never dote on how "awesome" the hospital room is, or how awesome a new "corset" is when her infant is in the hospital with a life threatening illness.

-Now say my statement is uncalled for and have a moderator edit it. I'm stating the cold hard truth about this poor girl since no one else on here will. I'm willing to help her out but for crying out loud your kid is hurting and you're doting on stupid meaningless crap.

I was thinking that no one was going to say anything, but thankfully, I'm not going to be the only one pointed out as being rude in this post.

Stop LOLing at everything and go be with your baby. To me, it sounds like he needs a mommy and a mommy who will take care of him, at that. Honestly, I'm not going to lie... I think it's a good thing that CPS is involved. What is RVS? I've tried searching it several times and it's not giving me anything but, "People are now more commonly traveling in RVs."

But seriously, if my Kaden were in the hospital, for any reason, I'd be by his side, questioning the doctors often asking what exactly is going on, and the only thing I'd be doing with a computer would be researching whatever they were saying is wrong with him. Definitely no yaying over corsets or going down for lunch. Your baby is helpless and all he knows is his mommy. Don't you think he's probably scared with all the other people around poking at him and all? Be there with him and make him feel protected and loved.

This is pissing me off. Poor little baby. I hope he feels better soon.

[iHEAVENn]

Originally Posted by MrsCVBerg

I was thinking that no one was going to say anything, but thankfully, I'm not going to be the only one pointed out as being rude in this post.

Stop LOLing at everything and go be with your baby. To me, it sounds like he needs a mommy and a mommy who will take care of him, at that. Honestly, I'm not going to lie... I think it's a good thing that CPS is involved. What is RVS? I've tried searching it several times and it's not giving me anything but, "People are now more commonly traveling in RVs."

But seriously, if my Kaden were in the hospital, for any reason, I'd be by his side, questioning the doctors often asking what exactly is going on, and the only thing I'd be doing with a computer would be researching whatever they were saying is wrong with him. Definitely no yaying over corsets or going down for lunch. Your baby is helpless and all he knows is his mommy. Don't you think he's probably scared with all the other people around poking at him and all? Be there with him and make him feel protected and loved.

This is pissing me off. Poor little baby. I hope he feels better soon.

Exactly.. cept you said it a bit more nicely than I did.
Rsv is a respiratory infection. It's that one hospitals warn your about constantly throughout your pregnancy.. well at least mine did. Try googling infant RSV or just webmd it?

We had to rush our son to the E.R. one month after his 1st birthday because he fell and broke his arm..
We were there for almost a full 24 hours, there were no "lol's, omg this place is awesome" yadda yadda. It was the most scariest time of our lives.
And finding out that our son had to have surgery to fix the break was heartbreaking.
We were not on the computer, we were not fascinated with the t.v. or other random crap items in the room.
Why? because NOTHING else mattered, except fixing our son and getting him home.

[Juggalette Mommy]

i wasnt loling at everything.. they took him to run some labs and i had like 5 minutes by myself and joking makes me feel better.. sorry for trying to ease the tension....

ne way he's been throwing up again.. but they think he may b ok to go home probably tomarrow.. and please.. dont start yelling at me about me "loling" its a relaxation method i learned.. if you dont like it dont post in my thread.. it helps me. and thats all that matters cause he wasnt even in the room when i was posting... so meh.

[losing touch.]

Originally Posted by Bisexual Juggalette Mommy

i wasnt loling at everything.. they took him to run some labs and i had like 5 minutes by myself and joking makes me feel better.. sorry for trying to ease the tension....

ne way he's been throwing up again.. but they think he may b ok to go home probably tomarrow.. and please.. dont start yelling at me about me "loling" its a relaxation method i learned.. if you dont like it dont post in my thread.. it helps me. and thats all that matters cause he wasnt even in the room when i was posting... so meh.

don't worry. you've got to be able to keep your sense of humour in situations like this, moping around and crying would not help your son so don't worry. you weren't laughing at anything relating to your sons illness, so i really don't see the big deal. i hope he makes a speedy recovery : ))

[LucyLouWho]

Originally Posted by Bisexual Juggalette Mommy

i wasnt loling at everything.. they took him to run some labs and i had like 5 minutes by myself and joking makes me feel better.. sorry for trying to ease the tension....

ne way he's been throwing up again.. but they think he may b ok to go home probably tomarrow.. and please.. dont start yelling at me about me "loling" its a relaxation method i learned.. if you dont like it dont post in my thread.. it helps me. and thats all that matters cause he wasnt even in the room when i was posting... so meh.

I'm glad they're saying he might be able to go home soon. Just make sure that he seems completely fine before you leave. If you think that something is still not right, tell them. That baby is counting on you to take care of him... Make sure you do that.

[heartbrokenboy1990]

i hope you babys better soon just remember to keep your head up

[BabyIndia]

I Agree with Elle on this tbh, Crying and being scared around a baby isn't going to help him get better, he's going to sense that your upset and scared, and it may panic him.

I got that you wernt making fun of the childs illness and things like that, and the cool stuff in the hosptial is actully a distraction.

I Hope he gets better soon.

It's no fun beign stuck in hospital.

p.s I Know thats not what Elle said, but i agree with what she said in her post.

[BabyIndia]

You know what else annoys me in this post?

The fact that people have 1 child think they know everything about every body elses children.

Comment a few places above.. Babies don't need water- actully that is pretty wrong, because if you give a baby it's milk, which is obv it's food (when the child can't eat solids) what happens when thats gone, and the baby is still thirsty?

You'd obv give the child some water, or some juice (and you need water to make juice.)

Connor was on water and milk when he was a baby.

He is still on milk at 2 years for when he wakes up and just before bed, he has proper food, and he has as much juice as he wants during the day.

All babies are different.

Your child may not like or want water, but others might.

Oh and before you all comment saying you don't know shit and blah blah, I've looked after Connor since he was born, and I'm also a fully trained nursery nurse at Nvq Level 3/4. I've also looked after a fair few children in my time since being qaulified. Most like water/juice and most don't. Depends on the child.

Also I don't mean giving the child water straight from the tap, we all know tap water is usally horrible. Boil some in a kettle and let it go cold, that way it is sterilised enough for a child.

So I'd say I know quite a bit.

[iHEAVENn]

Originally Posted by BabyIndia

You know what else annoys me in this post?

The fact that people have 1 child think they know everything about every body elses children.

Comment a few places above.. Babies don't need water- actully that is pretty wrong, because if you give a baby it's milk, which is obv it's food (when the child can't eat solids) what happens when thats gone, and the baby is still thirsty?

You'd obv give the child some water, or some juice (and you need water to make juice.)

Connor was on water and milk when he was a baby.

He is still on milk at 2 years for when he wakes up and just before bed, he has proper food, and he has as much juice as he wants during the day.

All babies are different.

Your child may not like or want water, but others might.

Oh and before you all comment saying you don't know shit and blah blah, I've looked after Connor since he was born, and I'm also a fully trained nursery nurse at Nvq Level 3/4. I've also looked after a fair few children in my time since being qaulified. Most like water/juice and most don't. Depends on the child.

Also I don't mean giving the child water straight from the tap, we all know tap water is usally horrible. Boil some in a kettle and let it go cold, that way it is sterilised enough for a child.

So I'd say I know quite a bit.

INFANTS do not need water, because at this stage in their life they get the water from formula or breast milk. Which if fed properly they will not go thirsty or hungry.
yes I may have 1 kid of my own, but I've helped raised my 4 siblings, and I've been around babies long enough to know about water issues.
Between birth and 6 months, they do not need water. You do know what formula is made with right? Water.

plain and simple.

[BabyIndia]

Your trying to make out I'm thick, of course I know what formula is made out of. Jesus.

Water is to see if they are actully just thristy, because if they are hungry they won't drink the water.

[topov]

"Newborn babies do just fine with formula or breast milk; drinking water is not recommended until about six-12 months (too much water can cause jaundice or intoxication). However, when making bottles it is imperative to use pure water.

While most of the medical world pushes breast feeding, many moms opt for formula. Or in fact, must use the substitute for health reasons. Whatever the reason behind not using breast milk, attention must be focused on one crucial ingredient to formula: water. The World Health Organization states, "...concentrations of nutrient minerals in drinking water may contribute significantly to the total trace element and mineral intake of infants and young children...especially applicable to formula-fed infants during the first months of life, who may be the most vulnerable group affected by excessive concentrations of nutrients or contaminants in drinking water."

Formula can come ready to drink which parents can be assured is safe. Formula also comes in powder mixture, which water is mixed with. Because the latter infants will be in taking so much water through formula, safety of that water should be the parents' focus. In an astonishing statistic, infants receive 40-60% of the lead they are exposed to through drinking water- which can cause damages including mental retardation. Nitrate, chlorine, aluminum and fluoride are other worries for babies drinking formula. For this reason, most formula companies recommend bottled water or boiled tap water. Also, homes with water purification systems will be on the safe side. Contamination of water needs to limited.

Pure drinking water can also aid in healthy teeth and gums. Many toddlers need a bottle to go to sleep with or they get antsy. But, giving a bottle of juice or ice tea can cause decay. A bottle of water is suggested instead.

According to TodaysParent.com, until babies begin to eat food, they will get all of the nutrition they need from breast milk and formula. But, the site also says once a baby is older and drinking from a cup, water is preferred over juice as it satisfies thirst. (Plus, it will start a healthy water habit early!)

According to recent news and reports, most tap and well water in the U.S. are not safe for drinking due to heavy industrial and environmental pollution. Toxic bacteria, chemicals and heavy metals routinely penetrate and pollute our natural water sources making people sick while exposing them to long term health consequences such as liver damage, cancer and other serious conditions. We have reached the point where all sources of our drinking water, including municipal water systems, wells, lakes, rivers, and even glaciers, contain some level of contamination. Even some brands of bottled water have been found to contain high levels of contaminants in addition to plastics chemical leaching from the bottle.

A good water filtration system installed in your home is the only way to proactively monitor and ensure the quality and safety of your drinking water. Reverse osmosis water purification systems can remove 90-99% of all contaminants from city and well water to deliver healthy drinking water for you and your family."

^^ for the 'heated discussion' above. (not my words, I read it in the past while re-searching water and infants, and thought it would be of good relevance here)

In relation to the thread, I very much hope your baby is better soon, and all can get back to normal for all of you... and hope everything (remodeling and check's) goes well for you... All the best for you and your child.

[J&M's Mommy]

I am sorry about your son. I hope he gets better soon and that everything goes fine with CPS. I would repeat someone else's advice about your house and just make sure the baby's area is really clean and nothing harmful is around.

I do not want to tell someone how to be a mother, as I am not perfect as a mother myself. Its ok to laugh in serious situations if it helps you deal with the stress better and I think that some people are overreacting just a bit.

I will say to you Brandi that as a mother do not just take a doctor's advice as excellent advice. Research what you are told, find different opinions. It is not your fault your son is sick, but just be sure to be more observant and do not be afraid to ask questions until you fully understand and research what you are told.

& I do think you need a new doctor ASAP.

I did find your subject changes in these post a little weird, but everyone is different. Perhaps you are just a random person, I can accept that. Just do not let your mind wander too much.

And lastly ... as a learning mother myself do not take what people say too seriously. Never let anyone tell you you are a bad mother. Take people's advice and implement it with caution. You will learn from mistakes, and you are going to make them. We all do. Best of luck to you, Jericho and your family.

[xxpaigiexx]

Hey Brandi,
I really hope your little one gets better soon.
It's good to know he's improving- keep us updated.
Paige xox

[vikki]

Originally Posted by BabyIndia

Your trying to make out I'm thick, of course I know what formula is made out of. Jesus.

Water is to see if they are actully just thristy, because if they are hungry they won't drink the water.

I have 3 babies and new borns cant have water ive had lots of health nurses and doctors and baby doctors tell me no not tell they are six months old.Now you cant say that only moms with 1 child think they now everything no one knows everything but even a mom of one knows that you cant give a new born water.Do you have kids of your own ? if not then i wouldnt tell moms even with one child that they can have water you should look up your sorces before stating anything

[LucyLouWho]

Originally Posted by BabyIndia

You know what else annoys me in this post?

The fact that people have 1 child think they know everything about every body elses children.

Comment a few places above.. Babies don't need water- actully that is pretty wrong, because if you give a baby it's milk, which is obv it's food (when the child can't eat solids) what happens when thats gone, and the baby is still thirsty?

You'd obv give the child some water, or some juice (and you need water to make juice.)

Connor was on water and milk when he was a baby.

He is still on milk at 2 years for when he wakes up and just before bed, he has proper food, and he has as much juice as he wants during the day.

All babies are different.

Your child may not like or want water, but others might.

Oh and before you all comment saying you don't know shit and blah blah, I've looked after Connor since he was born, and I'm also a fully trained nursery nurse at Nvq Level 3/4. I've also looked after a fair few children in my time since being qaulified. Most like water/juice and most don't. Depends on the child.

Also I don't mean giving the child water straight from the tap, we all know tap water is usally horrible. Boil some in a kettle and let it go cold, that way it is sterilised enough for a child.

So I'd say I know quite a bit.

You're wrong. Wrong, wrong.
Babies... infants... do not need water. Water can actually hurt an infant if given too much. I don't care if you've raised 20 kids and gave them all water bottles for lunch every day... It's still wrong. Suggesting to someone to give an infant water is a pretty good indications that you don't know quite a bit, like you say you do.

Here is a source to go back to simply because I don't feel like arguing about something that most good mothers already know... DO NOT GIVE YOUR INFANT WATER. ->

Water may be essential for children, adolescents and adults to keep hydrated in the summer heat, but for infants, too much water can be life-threatening.
"Breast milk or formula is the only source of nutrition that infants need," says Michael Farrell, M.D., a gastroenterologist and chief of staff at Children's Hospital Medical Center of Cincinnati. "During the first months of life, too much water can upset the electrolyte balance, setting off possible brain swelling and seizures from water intoxication."

In addition, too much water can fill infants' stomachs so they don't get the nutrients they need to grow. This is particularly common in families that cannot afford formula or may dilute it to make it last longer.

Dr. Farrell suggests avoiding water entirely until a child is about 6 months old. If an infant has diarrhea and vomiting, he suggests oral rehydration fluids, such as Pedialyte" or Infalyte".

http://www.cincinnatichildrens.org/a...00/7-water.htm

[Juggalette Mommy]

ok so apparently RSV is like a really bad cold... it CAN turn into neumonia.. it can cause the child to be put on a ventilator...


i asked his nurse why its lethal to him and not to us and she was like " ok your older.. so your bady hasd a hell of an immune system.. hes tiny and has about the immune system of a mouse.. that explain it.. ?"

[iHEAVENn]

Originally Posted by Bisexual Juggalette Mommy

ok so apparently RSV is like a really bad cold... it CAN turn into neumonia.. it can cause the child to be put on a ventilator...


i asked his nurse why its lethal to him and not to us and she was like " ok your older.. so your bady hasd a hell of an immune system.. hes tiny and has about the immune system of a mouse.. that explain it.. ?"

Yes RSV can turn into pneumonia. Which can be fatal, so make sure your not leaving the hospital until you feel 100% confident that your son is fine and is recovering well.

[iHEAVENn]

And to the whole infant water debate
Know your facts before trying to help out a new mom. All any of us here are trying to do is help the original poster by stating facts.

Is It Safe for Babies to Drink Water?

By THE NEW YORK TIMES Tony Cenicola/The New York Times Too much water can be dangerous for young babies.
Q.
Is it safe for babies to drink water? I heard there’s a 1 percent chance they could get encephalitis.
D.J., New York, N.Y.
A.
Dr. Alan Greene responds:
Even though water may be the safest and healthiest everyday beverage for older children and adults, water can be dangerous for young babies.
During the months before starting solid foods, the amount of water already present in breast milk or formula usually provides all of the water that healthy babies need both to grow and to replace the water they normally lose through their urine, stool, skin and lungs.
Dr. Alan Greene. (Tami DeSellier)
Water intoxication
Too much water can cause water intoxication in babies. Each time a baby pees, he or she loses not only water but sodium and other electrolytes. But unlike with adults, who tend to get too much sodium in our diets, babies usually get just the electrolytes they need from breast milk or formula. Too much water and they lose too much sodium. The sodium levels in their blood can plummet and cause irritability, brain swelling, unresponsiveness and seizures. (Note: Water intoxication also involves other factors, but that’s more detail than I can go into here.)
The risk of water intoxication is especially high if the baby is losing both water and electrolytes from diarrhea. Fluid losses should be replaced with breast milk, formula or perhaps a rehydration solution. Don’t give plain water for rehydration.
The risk is also high if formula is diluted with too much water in a misguided effort to save a little money.
What about hot weather?
In very hot weather, when babies may be losing extra water without urinating more, it can be O.K. to offer a bottle-fed baby a small (2 to 4 ounce) bottle of water between formula feedings – but there is no need to force this. Most will do well with just a little extra formula if they seem thirsty. Breast-fed babies are even less likely to need extra water.
What about dehydration?
If you are concerned that your baby is getting dehydrated, contact your health care provider. We expect babies to pee at least once in the first 24 hours of life, at least twice in the second 24 hours, and at least three times every day thereafter.
What about encephalitis?
Encephalitis is inflammation of the brain. It’s closely related to meningitis, or inflammation of the tissues protecting the brain, and the two often go together. Infections are a major cause of encephalitis.
When people think of encephalitis infections, they often think of mosquito-borne infections like West Nile Virus. But waterborne encephalitis infections are also possible, though they are quite rare in the United States.
All tap water from public water systems in the United States must adhere to Environmental Protection Agency safety standards and is usually free from infection-causing organisms. Nevertheless, infections sometimes occur and are especially likely during a natural disaster like a flood or earthquake, when public and private water supplies may become contaminated.
For those with strong, healthy immune systems, infections from drinking water are usually minor and are often limited to the digestive tract, causing symptoms like diarrhea. In young babies younger than a month or two and in those who are immunocompromised, the infections are more likely spread to other parts of the body, including the brain.
What about parasites and other organisms in drinking water?
The tiny Cryptosporidium parasite is one of the most common causes of drinking water infections in the United States. Cryptosporidium is not killed by chlorine but is killed by boiling. Advisories to boil water should blanket the local news whenever there is an outbreak in a public water supply, but there may be a delay. The biggest known outbreak occurred in Milwaukee’s city drinking water in 1993, when more than 400,000 people became ill with diarrhea, and it took two weeks to figure out that drinking water was the source.
Most, but not all, home water filters will remove Cryptosporidium and other parasites. Look for filters that have an absolute pore size (not a nominal pore size) of 1 micron or less, or that are reverse osmosis filters, or that have the NSF trademark plus the words “cyst removal.”
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention did a two year survey from 1993 to 1994 to measure the scope of all illnesses from drinking water. They found a total of 30 outbreaks in 17 states that sickened 2,366 people (not counting the huge Cryptosporidium outbreak) – a very small slice of the overall population. One child died from waterborne meningo-encephalitis (from a different parasite — amoebas), but he had been swimming in a waste-water holding pond and in a river that were both contaminated with the organism.
Of the 30 drinking water outbreaks, 20 occurred from well water; one was from commercially bottled water. A median of 33 people were affected in each outbreak. Giardia (another parasite) was the second most common organism, followed by Campylobacter. And Shigella, Salmonella and cholera were responsible for one outbreak each. For the other five outbreaks, the cause was never determined.
Should you boil water given to young babies?
Boiling is the most certain way of killing all of these organisms. Even though the risk of any infection is probably far below 1 percent, I agree with the American Academy of Pediatrics in recommending that sterile water be used for young babies, even when used to prepare infant formula. In practice, this usually means boiling the water for one minute, at least for the first couple of months.
When does water become a positive good?
After the immune system has matured a bit, and solid foods have started, breast milk or formula should still be the primary beverages. But if a baby still seems thirsty between feedings and doesn’t want to nurse more, or is already getting 32 ounces of formula a day, water is the very best additional beverage. If this is the case, offer 2 to 4 ounces of water between feedings, especially in hot weather. As children continue to grow, water remains an excellent beverage.
Too much fruit juice is not good for babies or toddlers, but that’s another story.
Dr. Alan Greene, of the Web site drgreene.com, is a pediatrician and author in Danville, Calif.

Yes, there is a drawback. A one-month-old spends a lot of time and energy eating, and in return, should get the calories, vitamins, minerals, and protein needed to grow. Water provides fluid only, so an infant spends that energy without getting calories to turn into more energy. Even on the hottest of days, when you are reaching for extra water, extra breast milk or formula provides enough 'free water' (they are more dilute than most people realize) to compensate for extra fluid needs. Is an occasional few ounces of water on top of a healthy milk intake going to cause harm? No, but neither is it a necessary part of a one-month-old's diet.

"Breast milk or formula is the only source of nutrition that infants need," says Michael Farrell, M.D., a gastroenterologist and chief of staff at Children's Hospital Medical Center of Cincinnati. "During the first months of life, too much water can upset the electrolyte balance, setting off possible brain swelling and seizures from water intoxication."

In addition, too much water can fill infants' stomachs so they don't get the nutrients they need to grow. This is particularly common in families that cannot afford formula or may dilute it to make it last longer.

Dr. Farrell suggests avoiding water entirely until a child is about 6 months old. If an infant has diarrhea and vomiting, he suggests oral rehydration fluids, such as Pedialyte" or Infalyte".

Maybe you should become a MOM before trying to give another MOM advice?
That way you're up to date on all the information out there about feeding etc. Because telling a mom something that you "think" you know about can be dangerous to a child's health and safety. If you need more information on it, go to your local hospital and ask for a booklet on newborn information.

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Of course TH already tells us that no one is a doctor and to not give medical advice.
Just be careful to what advice you take?

As Amy has already said, newborns should not be having water.

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Originally Posted by iHEAVENn

How on earth is that uncalled for?!
I was in NO WAY being rude to her, simply suggesting that she pay attention to every single detail the doctors tell her while they're in the room. Not just attention to extra things in the room.

You know what I find uncalled for as a MOTHER?
The fact that her CHILD is in the hospital under serious conditions and she's "LOLING" and Oggling over the t.v. and internet and bath tub.
THAT is uncalled for!

Situations like these are NOTHING TO LOL about and frankly, I'm fed up with people saying my statements that are to HELP this poor girl out are uncalled for.

Again, my FIRST statement was in no way to be rude. This statement however take it any way you want I don't care. She is a MOTHER, a Mother should not and frankly in my opinion EVERY single mother I know personally WOULD never dote on how "awesome" the hospital room is, or how awesome a new "corset" is when her infant is in the hospital with a life threatening illness.

-Now say my statement is uncalled for and have a moderator edit it. I'm stating the cold hard truth about this poor girl since no one else on here will. I'm willing to help her out but for crying out loud your kid is hurting and you're doting on stupid meaningless crap.

It was totally uncalled for. You weren't just trying to help you know full well what you were implying. Any idiot could see that she was trying to distract herself from a very difficult situation, there is no harm in that, thinking about how poorly your baby is constantly is only going to be detrimental. You did not know the situation, you DO NOT know the situation, none of us does. No one here has the right to judge which you clearly are doing (also the other girl that replied). Have some fucking empathy or don't post. Simple. She posted for support, not judgement.

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Originally Posted by Bisexual Juggalette Mommy

ok so apparently RSV is like a really bad cold... it CAN turn into neumonia.. it can cause the child to be put on a ventilator...


i asked his nurse why its lethal to him and not to us and she was like " ok your older.. so your bady hasd a hell of an immune system.. hes tiny and has about the immune system of a mouse.. that explain it.. ?"

How is he doing now?

I have to agree that if you are not 100% sure that he is well say something and don't let them discharge him. Hope everything is going okay

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There's no need for everyone to get angry at one another. Brandi posted this because she wanted support with what she's going through. Ugh.

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they said he sounded fine and sent us home.. gave us a script for antiboitics he only has to take 1 more dose of it... and he still has his cough.. but his temp is down.. and u cant really feel his " crater " anymore... so.. yea..

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o and sorry i forgot to post the pics.. here..

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omg thats so sad i remember whne i had to leave my son all by himself in the hospital when he was 15 months old iwouldnt have left him there but with his sister only being a month old and me breastfeeding there was nothing to do about it i hope he gets better