Bisexual in a private school

[Kyeto-X]

OK so for some weird weird WEIRD twist of events I ended up at a private chistian college. Not bad, I can deal with that. I have recently been rethinking about my walk with God and been wanting to futher my spiritual life and other such things. And it is good to get off the streets and get back into school.

Problem? well, it is a CHRISTIAN college. Menaing they can write they own guidelines and rules and stuff. One of the rules is that they do not accept nor endorse sexually impure behaviors (pre-marital sex, masterbation, and of course, homosexuality) I have pretty open view on all of these, masturbation is healthy and I encourage it without any guilt. Pre-marital sex is fine as long as you are safe and know what you are getting into. As for homosexuality? I am bi, my girlfriend is bi, my best friend is bi, i don't see a reason why those urges are any worse then being attracted to the opposite sex. As such, I have crept a bit back into the closet, meaning that I am not standing in the cafeteria scream "I SUCK DICK! I LOVE SUCKING DICK!" and other such things, just as a means of survival.

But today at lunch some friends at my table started just talking about homosexuality and how it was weird gross immoral and preverted. And I just bit my lip and bared it. I felt sick though, because I wanted to speak up, but i didn't have a valid arguement against them. They would just round back to the bible and declare it God's judgment on the immorality of these sexual behaviors. so i have no ground to stand on here. I want to stand up to at least my peers and be able to say, "Sex and sexuality is not evil or immoral. It is a gift from God." Yes I agree that SOME sexual behaviors are bad, like mulitiple partners or prostitution, or even rape and sexual predators and assult. But they group Pre-marital and homosexual acts into this same box. And I don't know what to say or how to counter the aurgerments as they come up.

I know it's long. *sigh* any advise on this? Should I just grin and bare it all year? or should I stand up to these saying as they came up with my peers. I am by no means trying to start a revolution. I just want to stand up for what I believe. How should i stand on this?

[Soliloquy]

Hey Will,

I think it's great that you are willing to stand up for what you believe in! I understand how difficult that can be, especially in a setting that is not as open-minded. There is a question I'd like to ask you, however: Is your college against homosexuality to the point that you would get into trouble if any staff members were to hear you making pro-LGBT remarks? If this is the case, I would advise against bringing up the topic. I understand that can be frustrating, but you don't want to jeopardize your reputation at the school.

But if you believe it would be okay, remember that you don't have to make it known to anyone that you are bisexual if you feel as though that would only make for a harder time. I don't think you should have to hide the fact that you are supportive of the LGBT community. If you hear someone say something that you don't agree with, you could politely make it known to them that you are a supporter and that you don't appreciate that they are making negative comments in your presence.

Keep in mind that you can't force your peers to believe what you do. You can only provide them with your honest opinion. In the end, if they choose to believe that homosexuality is immoral, no one can change that. I don't think that means, though, that you can't calmly express your opinion on the subject, unless your college has a problem with that, as stated above. Just be sure to convey it in a non-threatening manner, so no one gets offended.

I hope this helps! Take care!

[Union Of V]

I have to agree with Kylie. The important thing is not the stance of the school on blah blah, but how the staff will actually react to "challenges" that face them. Now it may be wise to keep your bisexuality out of the conversation, but when it comes to debating certain issues you should have free reign over what you say since it doesn't imply you're actually participating in the act. This is of course so long as you don't say it in class (because it can be seen as obstructing the class). Remember that simply because the school is private doesn't mean they are going to go out on a limb and punish you for holding an opinion.

[Kyeto-X]

Ok thanks guys. I have brought it up with some of the students and the conversation took a predicable nose-dive towards "Bible says this. Bible says that." To which I recanted that Alcoholism, yes hurts others, Murder, yes hurts others. However, being gay does not hurt anyone. It does not degrard anyone else marriage, and it does not errode the comminuty. They even tried bringing up how being raised by gay parents makes the children "gender-role confused" and "more likely to be gay thmeselves" When several socialogical studies prove anything but. They is no more higher precent of fucked up people raised by two men then by a man and a woman :P So i stood my ground and qouted staticstics and studys from this decade rather then a book written from 6000-2000 years ago

Eventually, we agreed to disagree and he praryed for me to see the light

[Union Of V]

Originally Posted by Kyeto-X

...They even tried bringing up how being raised by gay parents makes the children "gender-role confused" and "more likely to be gay thmeselves"

Hang on a second do you live in the Bible Belt? Because over here "gender-role" is a bit of a dirty word I'm pretty sure you could have thrown a feminist quip at them!

But yes if you present a solid enough argument without sounding like you're insulting someone or their belief system then the argument tends to wither and die when they run out of things to say.

[Kyeto-X]

lol I am not sure if it's the bible belt but it feels like it. And i did throw a femimist quip at them I am strong feminsit myself and I deal with it ALOT in my books. My female lead hates standard male-female roles, and she has broken a few noses over it. None of them her own lol.

[freehugs]

I read this and then i saw it was from you Will!

I'm sorry you're having such a hard time mate :/ That sucks, i think because of the situation it's probabally going to make your life alot eaiser by keeping quiet, as wrong and as hard as that is to do.. (im having a similar situation but the anti-gayness is from my extended family)

If the whole environment is anti-gay well ermm you might get some unwanted help or something from people trying to make you straight or being told how immoral it is and why and whatever else.. i know thats probabally really judgemental but whatever happens i don't think you're going to get the most positive reaction..

In a way, it'd be good to try and change or make people think about thier views but if they're so set in thier views that make not make any difference. You don't want to make your life any harder.. Basically, you're a bit screwed if you don't have the adults or erm thats the wrong word more the people in charges support.

I don't think that was alot of help,
I hope everything gets better Will,
xxxx

[Kyeto-X]

lol thanks for the love Kate :freehugs:

[Maiden]

Use this, lol:

"The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision."

[Kyeto-X]

LMAO!!! I totally need to post that somewhere

[Kyeto-X]

Originally Posted by Maiden

Use this, lol:

"The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision."

lol I totally posted that on my facebook page just now