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LGBT, Sexuality and Gender Identity Whether you're LGBT, questioning, have gender identity issues, or have entirely unrelated feelings, this forum is here to help with your questions.

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I have a couple of questions. - October 24th 2011, 05:39 PM

I really hope not to offend anyone with these questions, but I want a better understanding of these sexual identities.

First of all, what's the difference between pansexual and bisexual?
Bisexual people are attracted to both genders, and pansexuals love the person, not their gender, I don't see a difference.

Are pansexuals not interested in sex? Is so, what makes them pansexual and not asexual? Or are asexual people incapable of feeling any imtimate emotions at all?

What does it mean to be no gender? If this the step between being a MtF or FtM transgender? Or is it something some people strive for as their endgoal? Are they asexual?

If someone is bisexual, why don't they stick to people of the opposite gender, so that way they aren't persucuted? If it doesn't matter to them, why don't they remain "straight".

Again, I don't mean to offend anyone, but the FAQ here didn't really answer these questions.

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Re: I have a couple of questions. - October 24th 2011, 06:17 PM

The difference between bisexual and pansexual is that while bisexuals are attracted to men and women, pansexual people are attracted to people irrespective of gender. They're still interested in sex. I'll skip the gender ones because I don't know how to answer them Bisexuals don't tend to stick to dating one gender because they aren't just attracted to one gender. If you fall in love with someone (or just want in their pants :P) then you'd need pretty strong willpower to turn them down just because you don't want to date (or sleep with) people of that gender.

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Re: I have a couple of questions. - October 24th 2011, 07:46 PM

Right. Pansexuality also covers liking someone that identifies as no gendered or bi-gendered. It includes anything that falls outside of the gender spectrum of either male or female. Pansexuals are just as sexual as anybody else.

Asexuals tend to not feel sexual attraction towards others. Most don't have interest in sex, but that doesn't mean that they don't do it. I know a few people who identify as asexual, but their partners are not, and they have sex. So it's not necessarily a matter of if they have sex, it's more or less the attraction to sex or someone for sex.

I'm not sure about the no gender question. Some might be asexual, but most aren't. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they don't identify as a gender, and live outside the guidelines of gender in general.

And as said above.. Bisexuals are attracted to both genders. So it's just like how gay people like the same sex, and sure they could be with the opposite, but if they fall for people of the same sex, it's not that easy to go about pushing those feelings away. I'm sure many bisexuals do go about being "straight" so they aren't persecuted.


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Re: I have a couple of questions. - October 24th 2011, 08:01 PM

Pansexuals like people without basing it on their gender identity or anything, but they're still sexual. Bisexuals usually are just attracted to males and females. Bisexuals don't stick to one gender because they are attracted to both genders and can't really help who they fall in love with or want to have sex with. It's hard to ignore the feeling for the same gender just because you don't want to be persecuted.

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Re: I have a couple of questions. - October 24th 2011, 09:26 PM

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First of all, what's the difference between pansexual and bisexual?
Bisexual people are attracted to both genders, and pansexuals love the person, not their gender, I don't see a difference.
Ditto. I've been wondering the exact same thing.


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Re: I have a couple of questions. - October 24th 2011, 10:05 PM

So basically pansexuals don't care who they're sleeping with at all. As long as they love the person.

I knew what an asexual person was, but I wasn't sure if I had them... mixed up somehow.

And I kind of knew that about no genders, but if you don't identify as one, how do/can you have sex? That's kinda why I thought they were asexual or FtM or MtFs.

I apreciate all the answers so far though. Thanks.

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Re: I have a couple of questions. - October 24th 2011, 10:17 PM

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And I kind of knew that about no genders, but if you don't identify as one, how do/can you have sex? That's kinda why I thought they were asexual or FtM or MtFs.

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Gender Neutral, Gender Non-Conforming, and Gender Queer people still have a penis or vagina. So, they can still have sex. It simply means you don't see yourself as either being male or female, you're androgynous. That doesn't mean you can't have sex. If you have no gender, you can still have sex to whoever you're attracted too, what's between your legs doesn't define Gender Identity.


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Re: I have a couple of questions. - October 24th 2011, 11:23 PM

It IS confusing, isn't it? I think that's caused by two things: First, in this age of instant everything, everyone's experience seems to need a catchy name, there's this need to be "Something". Really, just for the sake of being it, when you look at it closely (as you are) it's hard to tell what it means and more importantly, what it's really describing, what it says about you and your preferences.

The other thing about sexuality in general is that it's truly unfortunate that the term "-Sexuality" (as in 'Bi-sexuality' or 'Hetero-sexuality') is in there b/c it instantly distracts and confuses, we think sex=arousal. And although that's surely a part of it, it's far more emotional than that. '-Sexuality', regardless which one it is, is really not so much about how you see everyone else, (or what arouses you) but how you see (and experience) yourself, the arousal part is the most obvious, but it really does come from the deeper sense we all have of who we are.

In the end, though, the simplest way of understanding this (in spite of how utterly boring it sounds) is that we're attracted to and aroused by people we like and feel emotionally safe with bonded to, regardless of what we call it (or ourselves). That's assuming some emotional component to sex, in the absence of that, it's coming more from impulse, it doesn't necessarily reflect '-sexuality' of any kind. HOW that comes to be is a far more involved discussion!


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Re: I have a couple of questions. - October 24th 2011, 11:51 PM

First of all, what's the difference between pansexual and bisexual?
Pansexuals (I think) are attracted to all genders(male/female/transgender/intersex), or may think of themselves as gender blind. They don't care what is in between a person's legs but who they are.
Bisexuals are attracted to males and females.


Are pansexuals not interested in sex?
No.
If so, what makes them pansexual and not asexual?
Pansexuals are equal opportunists, not really having a particular attractive to any one gender.
Or are asexual people incapable of feeling any imtimate emotions at all?
Asexuals are not usually incapable, but feel no sexual attraction towards anyone, or have no interest in sex

What does it mean to be no gender?
Can be described as pangender, and is a person who does feel as they can be labeled as either male or female.
If this the step between being a MtF or FtM transgender? I guess?
Or is it something some people strive for as their endgoal? Are they asexual?
I can't speak for them, as asexuals have no interest in sex acts, and pangenders simply don't want a gender identity.

If someone is bisexual, why don't they stick to people of the opposite gender, so that way they aren't persucuted? If it doesn't matter to them, why don't they remain "straight".
As a bisexual person, I will answer this one from a personal perspective: Because I fracking like males and females. It's my prerogative to date whomever I want. I like males for their male qualities, and females for their female qualities. I don't want to date exclusively one gender for the rest of my life to satisfy others. It does matter to me. I date whom I am attracted to, regardless of whether they are male or female. Sometimes I want to date a girl. Sometimes I want to date a boy. I'm attracted to both, so why wouldn't I date both?


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Re: I have a couple of questions. - October 25th 2011, 12:12 AM

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If someone is bisexual, why don't they stick to people of the opposite gender, so that way they aren't persucuted? If it doesn't matter to them, why don't they remain "straight".

Again, I don't mean to offend anyone, but the FAQ here didn't really answer these questions.

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Hey Justin!

I think you've got some great questions here! Don't worry about offending anyone -- I'm sure these are things that many people have wondered! In fact, I may take a look back at this thread later and see if there's anything that might be beneficial to add to our FAQ.

I don't believe that I have anything to add to your other questions, as the other users have done a pretty good job at answering them. However, I'd like to offer my perspective on this one.

I'm not bisexual myself, but I think of it this way: Bisexuals are attracted to both sexes. Just like everyone else, they can't choose who they're attracted to. A straight person is attracted to the opposite sex, but they can't pick which specific member of the opposite sex they're going to fall for. It's not as simple as narrowing your feelings down to one sex versus the other. As they say, the heart wants what the heart wants, and if there's chemistry between you and a person, regardless of their gender, you can't help that attraction.

Yes, same-sex couples get trouble at times. But I think that there are a lot of people out there who also believe in taking pride in their sexuality. You shouldn't hide who you are just because society doesn't approve. Sometimes we need to stand tall in the midst of prejudice.

I hope this makes sense! I wasn't entirely sure how to explain it. Again, great questions!
   
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