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The Rape of Europe - January 9th 2016, 01:38 AM

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EDIT (another one for good measure, particularly from 10:57): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZESdMIaa6Sg

Thoughts? Personally, I've not been following the news closely about supposed migrant-related rapes, so I don't trust myself to objectively comment much on that, although I do have strong opinions. And I've not personally looked into the Quran or Sharia Law either, so hold back on commenting.

But just about everything else he says... 100%. I'd like to particularly zoom in on the phrase he uses "political opportunism".

It's generally regarded that 25% of the highest positions in societies, are taken up by clinical psychopaths. This varies on the system in place. In democracies, this ought to be less. In autocracies, this ought to be more. But 25% is an average across developed nations from what I remember. In contrast, the general population is made up of about 3% of them.

These people don't give a shit about the refugees. They don't give a shit about feminism, or anything. They will say what you want to hear, because they want their high status, and nothing else. 500 years ago, they'd have achieved this by joining the Catholic Church. 100 years ago, they'd have achieved this by playing with pre-WW1 politics & rise of communism. 80 years ago, WW2 politics and rise of fascism in Europe. 60 years ago, re-shuffle of governments and politics after the war, and rise of modern capitalism... which survives until today, increasingly corrupted by their influence. And for the past few decades... it's been liberalism. Fascism gets all the shit for it, because of the WW2 massacre... but it isn't just fascism, because these people find their way into every ideology which happens to be in power.


This isn't some ancient consipiracy for global domination. This isn't "Illuminati" (bullshit). This is just their nature. Besides, something like "Illuminati" would require them to work together, which is something they are almost completely incapable of because of their egocentric nature. There is no "conspiracy" between them, just temporal "alliances" at best.

These people, infiltrate mainstream ideologies in any part of the world, to get their slice of power. They don't just "go away" once the war is over. They die, new ones are born, and it continues. If any of them tried to uphold the same sentiments as they would 500, 100, 80, or 60 years ago... none of them would make it to power. So they flocked towards the mainstream ideologies of today (in Europe). Those are: capitalism & liberalism. But that doesn't in principle make them any different than their counterparts 100 years ago.


In Islam, they flocked to positions of religious leadership, corrupting their own faith and creating organisations such as ISIS.

In Mexico... they flock towards drug cartels and everything related.

In capitalist countries, they flock towards the financial sectors & banking.

In communist countries, they would flock towards oversized governments & authoritative law enforcement.

They flock to where there is power. And if fascism starts gaining even more speed in Europe and abroad... they will be the first to exploit it. And I've got a few suspects already.

Political opportunism. No ideology is "immune" from these people. The only thing that can control them, is democracy that keeps them in check and answerable to the general public. That's probably the main reason why democracy is so important, and shouldn't be undermined or compromised in the name of anything.

What I'm trying to say here is... be very critical of what you hear/see in the news, because these people have no good intentions for anyone besides themselves. If their intentions happen to allign with those of the general public... happy coincidence. But usually, they don't. Because they have a different psychological make-up. The majority of the population is at least slightly altruistic, whereas the psycopaths I'm talking about... have almost no measureable altruism whatsoever (and yet they'll play with things like socialism or communism even, if that's what will get them into power).


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Then politics doesn't care about you either. Truth. You've got to make your voice heard, if you want to be listened to. But that's too logical for some people, so let me go a step further. Not making your voice heard, leaves other people free to hijack it by speaking on your behalf, even if they don't actually give a shit about you. That's politics. So, make your voice heard. That's not a quote from anywhere. That's just me.



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Re: The Rape of Europe - January 9th 2016, 04:59 PM

This is an interested topic that you brought up about abuse (a wide variety of abuse) with these cultures. The way I look at it is, we have cultures, so many they have laws, they have ways of disciplining than other cultures and countries. So, when they enter another culture and they view violence non-existent for themselves, but the culture they are in, they view violence as a learning/power and say it is alright to treat them with disrespect because they are in my culture so they need to learn our ways.

This can be very problematic for a culture entering another country and culture, where they view violence okay but it's a crime in the country they are in. Which is why, so many refugees struggle with the concept of right and wrong. Despite there culture saying it is alright to abuse another, it is not okay to abuse in countries where there is laws enforced. So, it can become hard; respecting culture and following country laws at the same time. This makes both parties confused and frustrated. More harm is done.

That is how I view it and what might be possibly happening.

Psychopaths need to be followed by a professional and diagnosed, the process is long because there is always overlapping symptoms for other mental illnesses that psychopaths could have but also the same for another less sever mental illness. They could be psychopaths, sure, but there is a lot of culture shock happening.

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Re: The Rape of Europe - January 9th 2016, 08:46 PM

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This can be very problematic for a culture entering another country and culture, where they view violence okay but it's a crime in the country they are in. Which is why, so many refugees struggle with the concept of right and wrong. Despite there culture saying it is alright to abuse another, it is not okay to abuse in countries where there is laws enforced. So, it can become hard; respecting culture and following country laws at the same time. This makes both parties confused and frustrated. More harm is done.

That is how I view it and what might be possibly happening.

That is a large part of it. But that's why a solid and uncompromising legal system needs to be in place that doesn't tolerate abuse of any sort from either of both parties.

A lot of people feel like migrants have been granted "special privileges" in the form of "extra tolerance" for certain unacceptable behaviours. I still believe that most migrants are reasonable people, and that the assholes amongst them are still a minority. But seriously... the double-standards don't fool most people. It's a bad idea to treat people as if they are idiots. Even if they actually are idiots. It doesn't fool most people, and most people don't appreciate it either. Even 2nd generation immigrants dislike it. And even 1st generation immigrants often think it's ridiculous, and a "legal loophole" to be exploited.

People are kind of sick of it... basically. I'm too tired to drag this out.

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Psychopaths need to be followed by a professional and diagnosed, the process is long because there is always overlapping symptoms for other mental illnesses that psychopaths could have but also the same for another less sever mental illness. They could be psychopaths, sure, but there is a lot of culture shock happening.

I've thought the same in the past. Then I thought about it more, and realised it isn't easy to "isolate" them at all. To recognise one in the first place, you have to catch him "off-guard". Otherwise, one can look, sound, and seem like one of the nicest people you've ever met. Often, you wouldn't even suspect it.

It's when their fake facade slips from time to time, that you get to see their true colours. There are ways to provoke them, and read typical reactions of such people. One for example is, that they hate criticism (although this does also overlap with narcissists), especially in front of people. It challenges their "authority" and "power". Do that... and watch their breathing speed up. Although narcissists hate it for different reasons.

I noticed this with some teachers back in school. With some teachers, if someone pointed out an error they made on the board... the kid would get a an extra few points on their homework (or something like that). But with some teachers... well, they're not allowed to hit students in the UK, but thelook they gave you spoke for itself. P.S. one of them is serving 5 years for having child porn.

I didn't know about psychopaths then... but I did notice the stark difference between certain types of people.

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"I don't care about politics"
Then politics doesn't care about you either. Truth. You've got to make your voice heard, if you want to be listened to. But that's too logical for some people, so let me go a step further. Not making your voice heard, leaves other people free to hijack it by speaking on your behalf, even if they don't actually give a shit about you. That's politics. So, make your voice heard. That's not a quote from anywhere. That's just me.



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