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Unhappy Jumble of thoughts. - February 1st 2022, 06:51 PM

I feel like I let everyone down, that I'm a failure, and I'm not worth the time.
I know this is my head probably speaking to me so I don't get help. I am trying to but I don't think I deserve it. there are people who struggle more, who deserve it more.
I say things to people that I wholeheartedly believe to be true... but can't come to believe for myself. .
I am a waste of space, a waste or oxygen, the world would be better with me gone.
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Re: Jumble of thoughts. - February 1st 2022, 09:42 PM

Firstly, don't be sorry for posting here! It's hard to reach out sometimes but you did a great job and I hope that writing it out helped.

You said the point I was going to make: you give advice to your friends but don't believe it for yourself. Imagine you were one of your friends. Would you ever say that your problems aren't big enough or aren't worth getting help for? Would you ever invalidate your friends? Try to look at it from that angle.

Also, your problems don't have to be better or worse than someone else's in order to get help, and you aren't wasting anyone's time by asking for it. Saying that people have it worse so you shouldn't get help, it's not valid to feel like you do, etc is like saying you shouldn't be happy because other people have it better. It's not a competition, and you're just as deserving. Plus, what if what you're going through gets worse because you didn't get help?

Sometimes our brains are mean and like playing tricks on us like that to avoid getting help. I mean, there's almost a certain sense of comfort in feeling what you already are. It's scary to get help sometimes and scary to feel something different. But you have to tell your brain to eff off, you're deserving. You're worthy. Even write down some affirmations and positive quotes if it helps. Repeat them enough time and you'll start to believe them.

You're not alone, and you deserve to be alive. We want you here, truly.

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Re: Jumble of thoughts. - February 2nd 2022, 03:16 PM

I'm really glad you decided to reach out, Taylah. It can be difficult or scary to talk about feelings and thoughts like this, and you are brave for feeling open enough to do so. I am glad you are here.

A phrase someone said to me once that I really resonate with, even to this day, is that "there's no suffering olympics." It's meant to mean that we shouldn't judge our own suffering because someone else seems to be suffering more, but I've found in my own life that it's taken another turn regarding what I like to think of as "internal suffering."

Objectively, there are situations in life where some people have it worse than others. Anyone who watches or reads the news regularly can see that. In some ways, I think that's a mistake, because for it to make news, I believe it can imply that's what "real" suffering looks like. But the thing is, suffering is an internal experience. It happens on an emotional and biological level, and when those wires get crossed, it can become complicated to sort out.

I know for myself I felt like I was suffering, but I knew even though bad things had happened to me, I at least had the support of family, a roof over my head, etc., things I knew many didn't have. Yet some of those people were still happier than me. I thought maybe I was selfish, or a bad person or something like that. But the truth is what was going on was a disconnect between my mind and body, and a lack of connection with other creatures.

I started feeling like I was suffering a lot less as I reached out more to people, especially in person in environments I felt were supportive and safe, and to start connecting more with animals, like my cat. He's my baby, and I've always loved him, but in the last year or so I've realized just just how much he needs me, and that was an eyeopening realization. At a time I felt I mattered to no one, I knew I at least mattered to my cat, and that was enough to get the ball rolling. Once I started feeling connected to him, and then to more of my hobbies and the things I loved, working more closely with a treatment team that felt supportive, and, finally, reaching out more to older friends and making some new ones (in Covid-conscientious ways, of course), I remembered that I am not as isolated as I had made myself out to be, and that isolation really does affect depression. Other work came later, but that was what started me down a better path.

I don't know if my personal experience helps you at all, but I can assure you, you are not waste of space or oxygen, and you deserve a chance to be happy and live. Depression actually alters the way the brain thinks, including short-term memory, and it can make it hard to remember things we love. Do you think you could maybe do one nice thing for yourself each day? Positive affirmations are a common thing to start with, but I know I personally struggled with those, because for me thoughts are harder to change than behaviors. So maybe you could focus on one simple thing, like stepping outside for a few minutes each day. Doesn't have to be long, just enough to get some fresh air. You could even open a window. Or you can think about things you like to read, or watch, or play, and engage in a few minutes of that. It might not seem "fun" at first, especially if it's been a while since you've felt any joy, and that might feel frustrating, but that's okay! Keep at it. Getting out of these patterns is not easy, but with slow steps forward you can get there. It won't be a perfect straight linear path out of the woods, but baby steps forward, even when you have to take a step or two back, will still get you somewhere other than where you are now.

I hope this helps give you some hope. Please don't give up on yourself, and keep trying. You matter.
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Re: Jumble of thoughts. - February 7th 2022, 09:11 AM

Hi Taylah,

I think a lot of the time people give advice to others they believe in, but when it comes to themselves they dismiss it entirely. I know that I'm guilty of that too. But everyone is their own worst critic, and all of the nasty things you believe about yourself deserve to be challenged.

You're not a failure - you don't let people down - you are worth the time.

There is always going to be somebody worse off than you, but that doesn't make how you feel any less valid, and it doesn't mean you don't deserve support. All of that is easy to say, but I know that believing it is the hard part. Something that has really helped me is saying out-loud the opposite of what I've been thinking of myself. For example, on a bad day if you are thinking 'I'm a waste of space', try saying out loud (or writing it down on paper somewhere you can see it) that you're not. This way, you're hearing the opposite said to you, and sometimes that can be really powerful. Try to do this regularly even if you don't believe what you're saying or writing. You deserve to validate yourself and boost yourself, because even though your brain is telling you differently, you are a good person who deserves to know that about themselves.

Please don't apologise for posting here. This is what the forums are here for, and you deserve support. Reaching out a a great step because even though you have felt you don't deserve the help, you're already challenging yourself by asking for it anyway. I hope that expressing this has helped you in some way.


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