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I'm infatuated with my friend's girlfriend and she's reciprocating. - September 28th 2015, 02:58 PM

In March this year, I met a guy on an online game. We quickly became pretty good friends, playing this game almost exclusively with one another, and we started talking outside the game. We added each other on Facebook, exchanged numbers, etc. Our friendship is now pretty strong, and we have a lot in common... including his girlfriend.

In June, I met his girlfriend in-game. They have been seeing each other for 3 years. They obviously have a physical relationship. He spends weekends with her. Initially, when her and I met, I was keen to get to know her as a person, but didn't think much of it. We took her under our wing and we all progressed through the game together. Over the next few months, we would play at least a couple of hundred hours together, talking, playing, whatever. She always seemed pretty excited to have me around.

About 2 months ago, she sent me a message on Facebook. We started talking casually. We talked about a lot of things. We talked about studying, relationships, sex, anything. It was casual, no side-motives other than good conversation. We talked for a week or so, then things suddenly died down. We didn't talk that way for a while - we were both busy with work, and our conversations consisted mostly of in-game chat.

About 3 weeks ago, she sent me a message telling me that she was having dreams about me and wanted them to stop. She hoped telling me would get them to stop. She told me that they were sexual, in a way, and she's not sure how to get them to stop. This was the moment the flirting started. We may have been flirting casually before, but suddenly the flirting started building. It started slow, with quips about dreams and flirtatious patronizing. There was a back and forth, "enjoy your dreams about me."
Then it didn't stop. It intensified. Really quickly. We found we were compatible on a lot of levels. We talked until 5 am every night for a week straight (despite me having work at 9 am and having to get up at 6am). We talked about a lot of things. We flirted. They were generally great conversations, and I enjoyed them. We talked on the phone, through Facebook, anything.

Then she tried to tell me something at the beginning of last week. She tried, but she told me she couldn't say it. So we ignored it and talked about something else. The next night, in a very, very deep conversation, she asked me what I thought "about us". I told her we had a "thing" (exact words). She agreed, told me she was happy and relieved to hear it. Then she told me "you know I wouldn't cheat on my boyfriend though, right?" I read this entirely wrong. Completely wrong. I said it was fine, never expected her to, I was talking to her because I enjoyed the conversation. Then she questioned me a little bit harder about whether I saw "us" as a potential couple. I said I didn't, despite the fact that I did. She told me that we weren't on the same level, because she did see us as a couple... or at least, what could be a couple. I then went into damage control, and it ended generally emotionally.
The infatuation came on after I opened up over the next few days. Typically, I have this emotional wall that prevents me from saying stupid things to the wrong people. She pulled that down. Somehow. We were talking, had another deep conversation the very next night, and my mind just melted. Potentially from lack of sleep, or maybe it was me trying to salvage anything I could.

Anyway, things have built up. A lot. Everything has intensified. During an emotional conversation today, she asked me if it was possible to "love two people". This wasn't the first time she used that word. We still talk constantly. Her boyfriend stayed at her house for 4 days and she was talking to me the entire time. She told me she misses me. She has told me a lot of things. All of which indicates she's reciprocating.

But we all know how this ends. Someone gets hurt. It will likely be me. I get it, I know the drill. I've been in this position before. So I've mentally prepared myself (but I haven't mentally prepared myself) for the probability. I don't know what to do. It's terrifying... but as long as we're on the same level, I want this. Is that stupid? Naive? Idiotic? Most likely.
What do you think I should do from here?

tl;dr: I'm infatuated by my friend's girlfriend of three years. She tells me she loves both of us, and I'm willing to get hurt, but I want guidance about the next step.
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Re: I'm infatuated with my friend's girlfriend and she's reciprocating. - September 28th 2015, 07:39 PM

Goodness knows how much help I'll be, but I can at least offer an outsider perspective.

Yes, we all know the main ways this can end and someone is going to get hurt. I take a class on the psychology of intimacy, and it was mentioned that the part of the brain responsible for "loving" and the "falling in love" bit are completely different. So, based on that I'd say yes, she probably can be in love with both of you (or falling in love with you).

It's always going to be painful and difficult when you connect with someone on this level who is unavailable. But things won't stay like this forever. The next step is either going to be initiated by you, or something else is going to happen to move this along. This state of just talking and connecting constantly is most likely not just going to stay like that in my opinion, and it sounds like you know that too. So...next step?

She's going to have to make a choice, and she needs to decide whether this is reason enough to leave her boyfriend. As she was saying she could see you as a couple, I think you could work from that. Depending on how you want to go with it, you could reiterate that she has a partner and it's not possible, or that you don't want a relationship with her. You could mention that if you both see a potential relationship, then what are you going to do about it- are you going to acknowledge it, and try and move past it for the sake of her relationship, or are you going to pursue it? Does she need to take time away from both of you, entirely, and then return to this situation when she realizes what she wants? She can desire two things, and I can empathize with that, but she can only have one in reality. She's been with this dude three years, that's a pretty big commitment.

Alternatively, leave the situation entirely before it gets too messy



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Re: I'm infatuated with my friend's girlfriend and she's reciprocating. - September 29th 2015, 07:27 AM

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Goodness knows how much help I'll be, but I can at least offer an outsider perspective.

Yes, we all know the main ways this can end and someone is going to get hurt. I take a class on the psychology of intimacy, and it was mentioned that the part of the brain responsible for "loving" and the "falling in love" bit are completely different. So, based on that I'd say yes, she probably can be in love with both of you (or falling in love with you).

It's always going to be painful and difficult when you connect with someone on this level who is unavailable. But things won't stay like this forever. The next step is either going to be initiated by you, or something else is going to happen to move this along. This state of just talking and connecting constantly is most likely not just going to stay like that in my opinion, and it sounds like you know that too. So...next step?

She's going to have to make a choice, and she needs to decide whether this is reason enough to leave her boyfriend. As she was saying she could see you as a couple, I think you could work from that. Depending on how you want to go with it, you could reiterate that she has a partner and it's not possible, or that you don't want a relationship with her. You could mention that if you both see a potential relationship, then what are you going to do about it- are you going to acknowledge it, and try and move past it for the sake of her relationship, or are you going to pursue it? Does she need to take time away from both of you, entirely, and then return to this situation when she realizes what she wants? She can desire two things, and I can empathize with that, but she can only have one in reality. She's been with this dude three years, that's a pretty big commitment.

Alternatively, leave the situation entirely before it gets too messy
You're absolutely right. And you've given me a different perspective than most (who will tell me "with friends like you, who needs enemies?"). I really appreciate it.

She has sort of distanced herself from me a little bit after talking to her cousin last night. Her cousin apparently helped her come to the conclusion that she needs to make a decision. And she's made it, apparently... she just needs to talk to her boyfriend first about "how distant she feels with him" and then she wants to see me ("just to see me"). I don't doubt that she has good intentions and she has a lot to tell me. Apparently her and her cousin did a pro/con list (never worked out for me before, it always ends incorrectly) "about her relationship with her boyfriend" and not necessarily about me. Don't get me wrong, some would say right now that she is clearly just going to see me to put me down easy, but it doesn't feel like that. I mean, she still talks to me every chance she gets. She still messages me. She still calls me fantastic and says I'm amazing and all of those cute, affectionate things... she just has a lot to do and she seems overwhelmed by the thoughts of it.

I'll keep this updated as things unfold, but that's all of the information I sort of have right now.
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